new-frontiers-14 / frontier-station-14

A multiplayer game about paranoia and chaos on a space station. Remake of the cult-classic Space Station 13.
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Shuttle clean up follow up #1684

Closed ErhardSteinhauer closed 1 month ago

ErhardSteinhauer commented 1 month ago

About the PR

PR will be in draft until changes made to the shuttles are tested. Following yml-edits to the files were made:

Why / Balance

Clean up, push towards narrower shuttle specialization.

How to test

  1. Load shuttles from the list

Media

Breaking changes

Possible everything

Changelog :cl: erhardsteinhauer

arimah commented 1 month ago

Re Stellaris: That's a service ship with an integrated kitchen. The idea is that it can serve simpler meals and refreshments alongside whatever performance is being put on. Removing its microwave and ChefVend leaves it with a crippled, non-functional kitchen. The ship should either be reworked not to include a kitchen at all, or be allowed to keep its kitchen. If the kitchen is removed, the ship will likely see even less use as one of its selling points is negated.

ErhardSteinhauer commented 1 month ago

Re Stellaris: That's a service ship with an integrated kitchen. The idea is that it can serve simpler meals and refreshments alongside whatever performance is being put on. Removing its microwave and ChefVend leaves it with a crippled, non-functional kitchen. The ship should either be reworked not to include a kitchen at all, or be allowed to keep its kitchen. If the kitchen is removed, the ship will likely see even less use as one of its selling points is negated.

irc the original PR, the shuttle was supposed to be a theatre. and the PR was submitted before the guidelines were a thing (I think), hence the kitchen.

ErhardSteinhauer commented 1 month ago

Hm. Perhaps Stellaris should be delisted until someone reworks it?

arimah commented 1 month ago

the shuttle was supposed to be a theatre

I mean... theatres in real life also sell food. That's where the profits are!

dvir001 commented 1 month ago

the shuttle was supposed to be a theatre

I mean... theatres in real life also sell food. That's where the profits are!

Alot of them do catering or outside service and don't actually hire kitchen stuff.

whatston3 commented 1 month ago

I mean... theatres in real life also sell food. That's where the profits are!

What if there was a specialized "junk food prep kit" you got for theatre concessions instead of ye olde stocked pantry?

Okay, you can serve food, but it's a pack of C&Ds, DIY popcorn and a large soda.

dustylens commented 1 month ago

"A medium-sized shuttle, with a large public area equipped with a stage with camera and kitchen facilities"

The ship is of medium size and offers two primary services: Entertainment and kitchen. The theater portion is a fluff piece for entertainment and community engagement in addition to providing variation in settings for restaurant ships. This is not a "salvage ship" with a kitchen stuffed in the back next to a chem vend and a science room.

This is a dinner and a show ship and it offers an opportunity for players who like to specialize in both to engage in that role. It's well within even the hand wavy balance guidelines.

At the most I could see it receiving a redress to have the seating area differentiated from the movie theater experience.

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ErhardSteinhauer commented 1 month ago

You know what? I'll redo this PR and make it a bit cleaner. And will not touch vending machines in updated version.

ErhardSteinhauer commented 1 month ago

Reworked the PR, should be good for testing

ErhardSteinhauer commented 1 month ago

Left the kitchen on that theatre shuttle untouched

ErhardSteinhauer commented 1 month ago

Right, so I bought every shuttle I changed. They spawned upon purchase without errors.