axellebot commented 3 years ago

Photos section evolution

Because of multiple feature request (eg. #6297, #6784, #7128, #7451, #7452) on the Photos section of the android application, may I suggest to discuss about what the Photos section should be and how it should evolve ?

Questions

For now, in addition of file management and thanks to developers, the Nextcloud Android App is also dealing with Photo/Video backup ... but what's next ?

Keeping in mind that server side Photos app is also evolving with many interesting features and features requests (eg. virtual album, face recognition, etc.) what about Photos section in the Android App :

Future of it:
- Should it be kept as a very simple gallery display ?
- Should it be enhanced with "Google Photo" features ?
Where:
- Should we keep enhancing the Photos section in Nextcloud android app ?
- Should we create a standalone "Nextcloud Photo" application (thinking about Nextcloud Talk) to deal with "Google Photo" alternative (backup/edit/display) ?

My Opinion

As an end user : now that Google Photo announced that the free tiers is gonna end (2020-07-01), I'm looking for a real alternative and I really hope that nextcloud will be able to support one.

As a developer I think doing a standalone app can be a good idea:

On the webserver side "Photos" is an activatable app (as Talk)
Sync enhancement with server side Photos app with its own repository (thinking about a Project referencing issues/PR with Server/Android/iOS)
It will permit to focus and not interfere with different purposes/behaviors/features between Files and Photos
Behavior and features may differ over time and enhancement between Files and Photos (eg: local/cloud media file management)

Other

I created a discussion on the forum to also get feedback from end user.

axellebot commented 3 years ago

Looping in @tobiasKaminsky

tobiasKaminsky commented 3 years ago

I would rather enhance photo/media section in this app than creating a new one.

Most of info is otherwise duplicated
App can benefit from another active devs, not sharing limited dev capacity
from user/UX: only one app, not different, as it is "still" about files (not like e.g. bookmark, deck, notes app).

In general I would follow this approach: Discuss it on server/photo app, then implement the same feature set in clients. This way we stay somehow feature parallel, and discussion is centralized in one place.

jakobroehrl commented 3 years ago

There is a standalone photo app: https://github.com/vauvenal5/yaga

axellebot commented 3 years ago

With flutter 🥰 Gonna take a look

jakobroehrl commented 2 years ago

Another photo app: https://gitlab.com/nkming2/nc-photos

axellebot commented 2 years ago

I would rather enhance photo/media section in this app than creating a new one.

Most of info is otherwise duplicated

App can benefit from another active devs, not sharing limited dev capacity

from user/UX: only one app, not different, as it is "still" about files (not like e.g. bookmark, deck, notes app).

In general I would follow this approach: Discuss it on server/photo app, then implement the same feature set in clients. This way we stay somehow feature parallel, and discussion is centralized in one place.

I agree with you that if we stick to "photo display" and "sync" feature It's still about file and it's totally fine. But if you think different and look for photo oriented features/apps it's more about : Virtual folder (album), Recognition, location, memories and so on. Furthermore the UI needs for those photos oriented features would differ from file oriented UI and both could'nt fit in the very same client app without badly impacting the UX (like nested navigation).

I don't know if you are familiar with Google ecosystem but I recommend you to check Files and Photos apps to see what I mean about the UI/features.

jakobroehrl commented 2 years ago

Some sources of inspiration:

https://www.synology.com/en-us/dsm/feature/moments https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.photos https://www.google.com/photos/about/ https://www.apple.com/de/macos/photos/

@tobiasKaminsky @nimishavijay What do you think?

Spartachetto commented 2 years ago

Another open source standalone photo app: https://github.com/scubajeff/lespas

And maybe it could be worthwhile to connect to the developer ( @scubajeff ) which is very active.

frederikb96 commented 1 year ago

Is there any new information on this topic? I could not find any other issues or more recent information about whether there will be official Nextcloud support for an Android Photos app.

Would be very nice if there could be official support from Nextcloud. And potentially leveraging the active current alternatives such as Les Pas or NC-Photos. Would be nice to see an official app combining the very well-developed caching and picture managing features from Les Pas but also including new features like Nextcloud Albums and the peoples functionalities which are available in NC-Photos :)

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