Open LordKerrrigan opened 12 years ago
Hello Thank you for the email :)
We are two guys working on this project, and I am not qualified to give you a respons on your email. I am a software programmer, not a hardware designer, so I dont know much about that thing yet.
The project is moving forward. We have been working on support for batteri on the controller part mainly.
We use two projects other made for us. Thus we are merging the two, and yes we have to code our own wireless nrf.
So I dont think we will emulate the controller, since what we do is merely making the signal wireless to the reciever box, and then translating the signal to usb.
However you are more than wellcome to help and participate and use what ever you can use. Everything we use is opensource :)
best regards kasper (nicedude)
2012/7/20 LordKerrrigan < reply@reply.github.com
N64 Protocol and hardware observations
The existing resources on the 'net weren't quite enough to write a successful emulation of an N64 controller. The following are some random notes from my own reverse-engineering.
Command summary: 00: identify, returns 05 00 02 with no controller pak, 05 00 01 with a memory or rumble pak
01: status, returns a 24-bit button and axis status packet
02: read from expansion bus, followed by 2 bytes (always 80 01) from the N64.
03: write to expansion bus. Followed by 2 bytes (always 80 01) then 32 bytes of data.
Expansion bus pinout, numbered according to the silkscreen markings on the controller's PCB:
Pin Name Note
1 Ground 2 A14 (1) 3 A12 4 A7 5 A6 6 A5 7 A4 8 A3 9 A2 10 A1 11 A0 12 D0 13 D1 14 Detect (2) 15 3.3v 16 D2
17 Ground 18 Unknown 1 (3) 19 A15 20 /WE 21 A13 22 A8 23 A9 24 A11 25 /OE 26 A10 27 D7 28 D6 29 D5 30 D4 31 3.3v 32 D3
Note 1: With 15 address lines, that gives standard memory paks a 32k capacity. The Nyko Hyperpak tested has 128k of SRAM, but includes a switch that selects between four 32k banks.
Note 2: There's a 3k resistor between detect and +3.3v in the controller pak. When this signal is high, the controller thinks a controller pak is present- it will attempt to read and write from it, and it acknowledges to the N64 with an 0xE1. When this signal is low, the controller doesn't attempt any writes or reads and it acknowledges with 0x1E.
Note 3: Possibly a chip select
Majora's Mask observed startup sequence
1. N64 sends identify command, 0x00 Controller responds with 05 00 02 with no controller pak, 05 00 01 with memory pak. 2. N64 reads controller status (0x01) 3. Another 0x00 command, with the same response 4. N64 sends: 03 80 01 followed by 32 bytes, all FE Response: 0xE1 with memory pak, 0x1E without. The response has no stop bit! instead, the data line goes low for 2us immediately after the last data bit.
Majora's Mask title screen polling sequence
1. Status request (0x01) 2. Identification command (0x00) 3. Another 0x03 command as described above 4. N64 sends: 02 80 01
Hooked up the controller pak to the logic analyzer. Looks like 0x03 is indeed a write, and the 32 bytes are all data directed at the controller pak bus. The two preceeding bytes probably indicate the address. At least one of the unknown pins in the pinout are probably high bits in the address, not used by the RAM but maybe used by the rumble pak or other controller paks.
Saved trace "WR1" with rumble pak attached, during game play in Super Smash. Can't make out a whole lot, but it's clear how the 0x03 packets work.
Recorded an odd packet at the title screen of Majora's Mask- controller slot was empty, but I was pulling the DETECT pin high to get it to talk anyway. N64 sent a write (03 80 01) then 32 0x80 bytes. Controller responded with 0xB8 (!). Saved to "no_pak".
The address does auto-increment during a 32-byte write to the controller pak. With the write command 03 80 01, addresses start at zero.
Memory pak reads, observed in Bomberman 64: N64 sent: 02 00 35 Read 32 bytes starting at 0x0020. Trace saved as "RD1".
Command Start address
02 80 01 0000 02 00 35 0020 02 01 16 0100 02 01 23 0120 02 01 49 0140 02 01 7C 0160 02 01 9D 0180
Rumble pak writes: To switch on the rumble pak motor, the N64 sends: 03 C0 1B 01 01 01 ... This writes 01 to addresses starting at 0x4000. To turn the motor back off, the N64 sends: 03 C0 1B 00 00 00 ...
So, it looks like the rumble pak is a simple memory mapped latch accessed using the same protocol as the memory pak.
But how does the N64 know which peripheral is attached? Initialization, from Super Smash Bros:
N64 sends 03 80 01 then 32 0xFE bytes, controller writes them starting at address 0x0000. N64 then starts a read using 02 80 01. This seems to verify that the address bytes in the read and write commands use the same format!
The rumble pak returns all 0x80 from this read, while a memory pak will return 0x00. Why doesn't the memory pak return 0xFE?
It looks like the status byte returned from a controller pak write is actually a checksum. This would make a lot of sense, as when saving a game data integrity is important. When generating write commands with a constant 80 01 address word and changing data, the checksum byte changes. Several messages were tested consisting of 80, 01, 31 zero bytes, then a different byte. The byte and the message's checksums are recorded below:
byte message checksum
00 FF 1111 1111 <-- seems to indicate that the checksum is only 01 7A 0111 1010 over the 32 bytes, not the address word 02 70 0111 0000 03 F5 1111 0101 05 E1 1110 0001 06 14 0001 0100 07 6E 0110 1110 C5 EE 1110 1110 FF 72 0111 0010
01 7A 0111 1010 02 70 0111 0000 04 64 0110 0100 08 4C 0100 1100 10 1C 0001 1100
- Memory map
0x0000 - 0x7FFF : SRAM, on the memory pak
0x8000 : Identification/initialization. Write all 0xFEs to it for initialization, then read back 0x00 on the memory pak or 0x80 on the rumble pak.
0xC000 : Motor control latch (low bit) for the rumble pak
- Figured out a lot more about the detection sequence.. see bus.py for an implementation of it, with comments
Poked around in the saved game format a little.. bomberman's saved characters are easy to modify, it uses a very simple checksum and each character attribute is just a byte.
The game names used in the controller pak data screen (press start while turning on the N64) aren't ASCII, but the character set is simple enough. Here's a partial translation table:
"ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ " "\x1a\x1b\x1c\x1d\x1e\x1f !\"#$%&'()*+,-./0123\x0F"
Each game gets a 32-byte table of contents entry, starting at 0x300. The second half of each entry is reserved for a 16-byte zero-padded game name.
Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/nicedude/N64_Controller_Wireless_Rumble/issues/5
Mvh Kasper Buus kbmjensen@gmail.com
Beautiful documentation! thanks!
~Robotto
@ Robotto no problem for the documentation @ nicedude: yes that's what I understand by reading the whole site, and the project interests me because I wanted to get into such a project in order to have a controller without nes/snes/N64/Genesis/Saturn over on my wii and maybe even turn my Gamecube
My dream is:
N64 Protocol and hardware observations
The existing resources on the 'net weren't quite enough to write a successful emulation of an N64 controller. The following are some random notes from my own reverse-engineering.
Command summary: 00: identify, returns 05 00 02 with no controller pak, 05 00 01 with a memory or rumble pak
01: status, returns a 24-bit button and axis status packet
02: read from expansion bus, followed by 2 bytes (always 80 01) from the N64.
03: write to expansion bus. Followed by 2 bytes (always 80 01) then 32 bytes of data.
Expansion bus pinout, numbered according to the silkscreen markings on the controller's PCB:
Pin Name Note
1 Ground 2 A14 (1) 3 A12 4 A7 5 A6 6 A5 7 A4 8 A3 9 A2 10 A1 11 A0 12 D0 13 D1 14 Detect (2) 15 3.3v 16 D2
17 Ground 18 Unknown 1 (3) 19 A15 20 /WE 21 A13 22 A8 23 A9 24 A11 25 /OE 26 A10 27 D7 28 D6 29 D5 30 D4 31 3.3v 32 D3
Note 1: With 15 address lines, that gives standard memory paks a 32k capacity. The Nyko Hyperpak tested has 128k of SRAM, but includes a switch that selects between four 32k banks.
Note 2: There's a 3k resistor between detect and +3.3v in the controller pak. When this signal is high, the controller thinks a controller pak is present- it will attempt to read and write from it, and it acknowledges to the N64 with an 0xE1. When this signal is low, the controller doesn't attempt any writes or reads and it acknowledges with 0x1E.
Note 3: Possibly a chip select
Majora's Mask observed startup sequence
Majora's Mask title screen polling sequence
Hooked up the controller pak to the logic analyzer. Looks like 0x03 is indeed a write, and the 32 bytes are all data directed at the controller pak bus. The two preceeding bytes probably indicate the address. At least one of the unknown pins in the pinout are probably high bits in the address, not used by the RAM but maybe used by the rumble pak or other controller paks.
Saved trace "WR1" with rumble pak attached, during game play in Super Smash. Can't make out a whole lot, but it's clear how the 0x03 packets work.
Recorded an odd packet at the title screen of Majora's Mask- controller slot was empty, but I was pulling the DETECT pin high to get it to talk anyway. N64 sent a write (03 80 01) then 32 0x80 bytes. Controller responded with 0xB8 (!). Saved to "no_pak".
The address does auto-increment during a 32-byte write to the controller pak. With the write command 03 80 01, addresses start at zero.
Memory pak reads, observed in Bomberman 64: N64 sent: 02 00 35 Read 32 bytes starting at 0x0020. Trace saved as "RD1".
Command Start address
02 80 01 0000 02 00 35 0020 02 01 16 0100 02 01 23 0120 02 01 49 0140 02 01 7C 0160 02 01 9D 0180
Rumble pak writes: To switch on the rumble pak motor, the N64 sends: 03 C0 1B 01 01 01 ... This writes 01 to addresses starting at 0x4000. To turn the motor back off, the N64 sends: 03 C0 1B 00 00 00 ...
So, it looks like the rumble pak is a simple memory mapped latch accessed using the same protocol as the memory pak.
But how does the N64 know which peripheral is attached? Initialization, from Super Smash Bros:
N64 sends 03 80 01 then 32 0xFE bytes, controller writes them starting at address 0x0000. N64 then starts a read using 02 80 01. This seems to verify that the address bytes in the read and write commands use the same format!
The rumble pak returns all 0x80 from this read, while a memory pak will return 0x00. Why doesn't the memory pak return 0xFE?
It looks like the status byte returned from a controller pak write is actually a checksum. This would make a lot of sense, as when saving a game data integrity is important. When generating write commands with a constant 80 01 address word and changing data, the checksum byte changes. Several messages were tested consisting of 80, 01, 31 zero bytes, then a different byte. The byte and the message's checksums are recorded below:
byte message checksum
00 FF 1111 1111 <-- seems to indicate that the checksum is only 01 7A 0111 1010 over the 32 bytes, not the address word 02 70 0111 0000 03 F5 1111 0101 05 E1 1110 0001 06 14 0001 0100 07 6E 0110 1110 C5 EE 1110 1110 FF 72 0111 0010
01 7A 0111 1010 02 70 0111 0000 04 64 0110 0100 08 4C 0100 1100 10 1C 0001 1100
0x0000 - 0x7FFF : SRAM, on the memory pak
0x8000 : Identification/initialization. Write all 0xFEs to it for initialization, then read back 0x00 on the memory pak or 0x80 on the rumble pak.
0xC000 : Motor control latch (low bit) for the rumble pak
Poked around in the saved game format a little.. bomberman's saved characters are easy to modify, it uses a very simple checksum and each character attribute is just a byte.
The game names used in the controller pak data screen (press start while turning on the N64) aren't ASCII, but the character set is simple enough. Here's a partial translation table:
"ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ " "\x1a\x1b\x1c\x1d\x1e\x1f !\"#$%&'()*+,-./0123\x0F"
Each game gets a 32-byte table of contents entry, starting at 0x300. The second half of each entry is reserved for a 16-byte zero-padded game name.