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Support roman numerals #110

Closed josteinaj closed 5 years ago

josteinaj commented 7 years ago

from Karis google sheet

KariRudjord commented 6 years ago

Capitals - 6 before Lower case - 56 before

matskober commented 6 years ago

Don't we need to mark up roman numerals inline, like 'Haakon IV' or 'Haakon VI'? Otherwise, how to differ between roman numerals and clusters of capital letters?

KariRudjord commented 6 years ago

I don't know if its possible to solve the roman number issue. How should you know if Magnus V Magnussen is Magnus 5th or Magnus Verner Magnussen?

matskober commented 6 years ago

If only one numeral or letter I guess it doesn't matter; then V is ⠠⠧ anyway, right ? But when more than one; VI = ⠠⠠⠧⠊ (alphabetical) or ⠠⠧⠊ (numeral).

KariRudjord commented 6 years ago

Could we do something for all the numbers containing of mor than one letter? What about 100, 500, 1000? I 1 II 2 III 3 IV 4 V 5 VI 6 VII 7 VIII 8 IX 9 X 10 XI 11 XII 12 XIII 13 XIV 14 XV 15 XVI 16 XVII 17 XVIII 18 XIX 19 XX 20 XXV 25 XXIX 29 XXX 30 XXXV 35 XXXIX 39 XL 40 XLV 45 XLIX 49 L 50 XC 90 C 100 D 500 M 1000 MCC 1200 MDXXXVI 1536 MDCLXVI 1666 MDCCLXXXVIII 1788 MCM 1900 MCMXC 1990 MCMXCVIII 1998 MM 2000

josteinaj commented 6 years ago

I think multiple capital letters are already surrounded by "⠠⠠" on each side?

Also, I think things would be much easier if we didn't have to detect whether something is a roman numeral or not.

matskober commented 6 years ago

The sensible thing would be to get OUP to adjust the rule? Why should 'Haakon VI' (⠠⠓⠁⠁⠅⠕⠝ ⠠⠠⠧⠊) be worse than 'Haakon Vi' (⠠⠓⠁⠁⠅⠕⠝ ⠠⠧⠊)? Today's rule only make sense (inline) if the roman numerals are in lower case, when ⠰ (56) should be applied. But then again: The roman numerals need mark up or detection of some kind. (Not even sure if lower case roman numerals ever appear inline?)

KariRudjord commented 6 years ago

Arne is going to OUP meeting tomorrow. I have asked him to ask for the draft of new guidelines if possible. Maybe they have done something with this, we'll see.

KariRudjord commented 6 years ago

From Statped: Roman numbers should only have one big letter sign (6) before the first letter.

bertfrees commented 6 years ago

I'm sorry, the requirement is not entirely clear to me. Would it be possible to give some examples that I can turn into a Liblouis test?

KariRudjord commented 5 years ago

The norwegian braille authority has changed the rules (January 31, 2019). Capital roman signs, eg. IV are now written with (6-6) before and iv is written as it is with no sign before. Works in PIP already.