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Presenting new team LTP sheet #22

Closed vanlankveldthijs closed 1 year ago

vanlankveldthijs commented 1 year ago

I recently switched teams, so we had to decide together which of their in-progress projects I should start contributing to. They had some rudimentary sheet to keep track of who was working on what. However, I found it very difficult to get an idea from this which projects needed some extra attention.

So I built a shiny new long-term planning sheet for the team!

Some specific desirable features are:

I think other teams might also benefit from using this sheet (or from building something similar). Conversely, a discussion on LTP sheets may reveal some more features that I'd want to add to our LTP sheet.

Note that this sheet mostly aids in using up project budgets exactly on time. Getting the right people to work on the right projects is extremely important, but Excel is not qualified to decide this for you ;D

LourensVeen commented 1 year ago

Some discussion of this versus using Ganttic would be nice!

vanlankveldthijs commented 1 year ago

I don't think this has any hope of replacing Ganttic: you still need to fill in current budgets and this sheet cannot directly access those databases. So we're currently using Ganttic to update the sheet's budgets.

But I agree that a discussion Ganttic (or other ways of accessing actually written hours) in light of this would be very useful.

NicoRenaud commented 1 year ago

Hey @vanlankveldthijs and others. Last month I've created a PowerBI dashboard that would allow RSEs to see exactly where we are in terms of hours spent on a given project. It is not a planning tool in itself but it can add some information to your LTP and to Ganttic.

But I think this tool can help answering some of the desired features:

There has been already quite a bit of discussion between the different management layers to see if we want to use that and if yes how to proceed. But I hope we can start using it in soon

Just to give you an idea here is a screen shot: preview

I think everything is pretty self explanatory but just in case, on the top graph you can see who wrote hours on the project, on the bottom graph you have cumulative plot of all hours written (yellow line) and the linear planning as dashed grey line.

LourensVeen commented 1 year ago

I was mainly trying to figure out what the sheet does that Ganttic doesn't, but I guess the point is that you can edit it, and make your own planning, whereas you don't have write rights to Ganttic? So @NicoRenaud, does this PowerBI thing (looks nice!) let you plan, or only monitor?

NicoRenaud commented 1 year ago

@LourensVeen only monitor ! So it won't replace Ganntic

vanlankveldthijs commented 1 year ago

Still nice, because the monitoring options of Ganttic (at least as presented to RSEs) leave some things to be desired.

egpbos commented 1 year ago

Sounds like a nice SIG topic to me :) 👍

jiskattema commented 1 year ago

Hi @vanlankveldthijs ! As the Ganttic admin, I'm interested in your LTP sheet - - but i dont see a copy attached here, or anywhere else on this repo. Can you mail/send/.. me an example?

JaroCamphuijsen commented 1 year ago

@jiskattema Here is the link to the LTP sheet from Thijs , which he shared with us. Although it seems that it's not publicly available to all in the eScience Center.

EDIT There is also a copy of the sheet in the soft skills SIG onedrive

vanlankveldthijs commented 1 year ago

I've created a copy on my own OneDrive. This should be viewable and editable by anyone:

https://nlesc-my.sharepoint.com/:x:/g/personal/t_vanlankveld_esciencecenter_nl/EQPGzsHFOiJAkaJ-tT4A-3cBlAl2wv3ye9qm9gAhx94v8g