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Node.js Foundation Core Technical Committee (CTC) Meeting 2017-08-30 #171

Closed Trott closed 6 years ago

Trott commented 7 years ago

Time

UTC Wed 30-Aug-2017 16:00 (04:00 PM):

Timezone Date/Time
US / Pacific Wed 30-Aug-2017 09:00 (09:00 AM)
US / Mountain Wed 30-Aug-2017 10:00 (10:00 AM)
US / Central Wed 30-Aug-2017 11:00 (11:00 AM)
US / Eastern Wed 30-Aug-2017 12:00 (12:00 PM)
Amsterdam Wed 30-Aug-2017 18:00 (06:00 PM)
Moscow Wed 30-Aug-2017 19:00 (07:00 PM)
Chennai Wed 30-Aug-2017 21:30 (09:30 PM)
Hangzhou Thu 31-Aug-2017 00:00 (12:00 AM)
Tokyo Thu 31-Aug-2017 01:00 (01:00 AM)
Sydney Thu 31-Aug-2017 02:00 (02:00 AM)

Or in your local time:

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Agenda

Extracted from ctc-agenda labelled issues and pull requests from the nodejs org prior to the meeting.

nodejs/node

nodejs/vm

nodejs/CTC

Invited

Observers

Notes

The agenda comes from issues labelled with ctc-agenda across all of the repositories in the nodejs org. Please label any additional issues that should be on the agenda before the meeting starts.

Joining the meeting

Uberconference; participants should have the link & numbers, contact me if you don't.

Public participation

We stream our conference call straight to YouTube so anyone can listen to it live, it should start playing at https://www.youtube.com/c/nodejs+foundation/live when we turn it on. There's usually a short cat-herding time at the start of the meeting and then occasionally we have some quick private business to attend to before we can start recording & streaming. So be patient and it should show up.

Many of us will be on IRC in #node-dev on Freenode if you'd like to interact, we have a Q/A session scheduled at the end of the meeting if you'd like us to discuss anything in particular. @nodejs/collaborators in particular if there's anything you need from the CTC that's not worth putting on as a separate agenda item, this is a good place for it.

Trott commented 7 years ago

Reminder that I'm on vacation all next week and @mhdawson will be chairing this meeting.

Trott commented 7 years ago

There are six items labeled ctc-review, although given that there are 5 items on the agenda, including a high-profile controversial subject, I'd recommend focusing on trying to resolve as many of those agenda items as possible in GitHub before the meeting.

ctc-agenda items can be found at https://github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=label%3Actc-agenda&type=.

ctc-review items can be found at https://github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=label%3Actc-review&type=.

mcollina commented 7 years ago

It might be possible I will not be able to join, as I am traveling in an unfavorable timezone. Regarding the streams issues, I might not be needed if some other ctc members weight in. I'll do my best to join.

The current problem is that there seems no consensus on https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/445#issuecomment-310028610. The streams WG thinks the best path forward is to add new properties to the classes (b solution), but @mscdex (and maybe others) objects that as it will pollute all descendants. If we want https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/445 solved, we need to pick a path forward.

bnoordhuis commented 7 years ago

I won't be joining, I'll be on the road at the time of the call.

I haven't had time to work on nodejs/node#13784. I suggest taking it off the agenda unless there is anything new to discuss. It was discussed last time but not untagged afterwards.

An emphatic -1 to #165 and, by $deity, let it be the last time this affair comes up.

No strong opinion on the other issues. nodejs/node#445 and nodejs/vm#9 don't seem objectionable to me and I don't quite understand why nodejs/node#12857 is controversial.

mhdawson commented 7 years ago

I'm still looking for a volunteer to stream.

Trott commented 7 years ago

I'm still looking for a volunteer to stream.

@Fishrock123 Are you likely to be able to make this meeting?

targos commented 7 years ago

I can volunteer but I'm not sure what are the technical requirements

Trott commented 7 years ago

@targos There are two markdown documents in https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/tree/master/Streaming that hopefully answer the question. Otherwise, Rod and Jeremiah are the two folks who usually do it, so you can ask them if you have questions.

Fishrock123 commented 7 years ago

I believe we will also have to discuss https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/pull/317 in some form.

Are you likely to be able to make this meeting?

I should be able to, yes.

jasnell commented 7 years ago

There have been no objections raised in regards https://github.com/nodejs/TSC/pull/317. Given that fact, I believe we can simply proceed with landing that PR and assuming that the decision is complete. There's no need to discuss things that are not contentious.

Fishrock123 commented 7 years ago

I think for posterity it should at least be mentioned at the start of the meeting. Should we mark this as a TSC meeting and not a CTC meeting? Or both this week?

jasnell commented 7 years ago

I have updated the invite list to include @joshgav as a TSC member rather than an observer, and have updated the (CTC) markers next to everyone's name to read (TSC).

We should mark this as a TSC meeting. There's no point in having both.

Fishrock123 commented 7 years ago

I worry that may cause some confusion for people not so in-tune what is going on.

digitalinfinity commented 7 years ago

@mhdawson let us know if you need anyone from @nodejs/n-api to drop in to discuss nodejs/vm#9. Both myself and @aruneshchandra are available if you need us.

rvagg commented 6 years ago

Please read my statement in #165 if you haven't already done so and are planning on submitting a vote in this meeting. If you are voting based on factors separate to those stated in the post or those not covered by my statement then I would appreciate the chance to speak to those factors. I will try and make it, although it's 2am for me so forgive me if I'm not there.

mhdawson commented 6 years ago

@digitalinfinity can you chime in on https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/14902 (related to nodejs/vm#9) to fill in how the discussion went on CS modules.

digitalinfinity commented 6 years ago

@mhdawson done