Node.js 10.0.0 Tracking

[jasnell]

FYI... I will be kicking off the process for Node.js 10.0.0 the first week of January. Current plan is to create the actual v10.x and v10.x-staging branches on March 1st.

[mhdawson]

+1

[jasnell]

Ping @nodejs/release @nodejs/lts @nodejs/tsc .@nodejs/collaborators.. Because Node.js 10.x will be an LTS branch, it needs an LTS code name. The 8.x code name was "Carbon", which means we're on the D's. Unfortunately, the options for D are quite limited.

• Darmstadtium - "the synthetic chemical element of atomic number 110. It is a superheavy metal that decays in thousandths of a second."
• Dubnium - "the chemical element of atomic number 105, a very unstable element made by high-energy atomic collisions."
• Dysprosium - "the chemical element of atomic number 66, a soft silvery-white metal of the lanthanide series."

Aside from the horrible names, it would be exceedingly funny to name a Long Term Support line after either an element that decays in thousandths of a second, or after a highly unstable element, so either of the first too automatically get my vote.

Please weigh in on your choice.

[ofrobots]

My vote is none of the above. Let's pick another theme :).

[jasnell]

My vote is none of the above. Let's pick another theme.

aww ;-)

[kapouer]

??? Diamond !!! it's not an element all right, but it's a nice shape of carbon...

[trivikr]

Deuterium? It has a number of commercial and scientific uses, like nuclear reactors, spectroscopy, tracing, drugs etc

[MylesBorins]

The element system will eventually fall apart as there are not elements for every letter.

It might be worth considering another naming scheme

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Deuterium https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deuterium? It has a number of commercial and scientific uses, like nuclear reactors, spectroscopy, tracing, drugs etc

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[jasnell]

Sure. Any suggestions?

[bengl]

Is there actual value in still having a naming scheme? The numbers seem to be used basically everywhere.

[MylesBorins]

Animals Comic book characters Cities Spices Movie titles

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Sure. Any suggestions?

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[ronkorving]

• (Computer?) Scientists (A.., B.., C.., Dahl :))
• Stars and other celestial objects
• Star Wars characters (I think trademarks may be an issue though, same may be true for comic books)
• Food (Android is already exhausting confectionery names though)

[Trott]

• Muppet characters (Animal, Beaker, Camilla, Dr. Teeth...)
• Homestar Runner characters (Arrow'd Guy, Bubs, The Cheat, Drive-Thru Whale, Fhqwhgads...)

[MylesBorins]

Come on... Fhqwhgads

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• Muppet characters (Animal, Beaker, Camilla, Dr. Teeth...)
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[klimashkin]

Positive Words That Start With D

DABBLE, DAIMON, DAINTIFY, DAINTY , DANCE, DANCER , DANDY, DANKE, DANKEN, DAPPER , DAPPERLY, DARING , DARINGLY, DARLING , DASHING, DASHINGLY , DAUNTLESS , DAUWTRAPPEN, DAWN, DAYEE, DAZZLE, DAZZLED, DAZZLING, DAZZLINGLY , DEAD-CHEAP, DEAD-ON, DEAN , DEAR , DEAR ME, DEARLY, DEBONAIR, DEBONAIRLY , DECENCY , DECENT, DECENTLY , DECIDING , DECISIVE , DECISIVELY, DECISIVENESS, DECK, DECLARE, DECOCT, DECORATE, DECORE, DECOROUS, DECOROUSLY , DECREE, DEDICATED, DEDUCE, DEDUCTIVE, DEED, DEEP , DEEPEN, DEEPER PART OF YOU, DEEPLY, DEFEAT, DEFEATING, DEFENCELESSNESS, DEFEND, DEFENDER, DEFER, DEFERENCE, DEFIANT, DEFIANTLY , DEFINE, DEFINITE , DEFINITELY, DEFINITIVE, DEFIX, DEFT, DEFTLY , DEIFY, DELECTABLE , DELECTABLY , DELECTATE, DELIBATE, DELIBERATE, DELIBERATELY, DELICACY, DELICATE , DELICATELY , DELICIOUS, DELICIOUSNESS, DELIGHT, DELIGHTED, DELIGHTEDLY, DELIGHTFUL , DELIGHTFULLY , DELIGHTFULNESS, DELIVER, DELUXE, DEMOCRATIC, DEMONSTRATIVE , DEMULCE, DEMULCENT, DEONERATE, DEOPPILATE, DEOSCULATE, DEPENDABILITY, DEPENDABLE , DEPENDABLY , DEPICT, DEPOSIT, DEPREICATE, DEPURATE, DEPUTE, DEPUTIZE, DERIVE, DESCRIBE, DESCRY, DESERVE, DESERVEDLY, DESERVEDNESS, DESERVING , DESERVINGLY , DESERVINGNESS, DESIGNER , DESIRABLE , DESIRABLY, DESIRE, DESIRED, DESIRING, DESIROUS , DESTINED , DESTINY, DESUME, DETACHABLE, DETACHMENT, DETECT, DETERMINANT, DETERMINATE, DETERMINATION, DETERMINE, DETERMINED , DETERMINEDLY , DEVELOP, DEVELOPED , DEVELOPING , DEVISE, DEVISEE, DEVISOR , DEVOTED, DEVOTEDLY, DEVOTEDLY , DEVOTEE, DEVOTION, DEVOTIONAL , DEVOUT , DEVOUTLY , DEW, DEXTERITY, DEXTEROUS, DEXTEROUSLY , DIADEM, DIALECTIC, DIAMOND, DIAMONDIZE, DIDACTIC , DIE-HARD, DIFFERENCE, DIFFERENT, DIFFERENTLY , DIG, DIGHT, DIGNIFIED , DIGNIFY, DIGNITY, DILIGENCE, DILIGENT , DILIGENTLY , DIMPLE, DING, DINKUM , DIP, DIPLOMATIC , DIPLOMATICALLY , DIRECT , DIRECTION, DIRECTLY , DIRECTOR, DIRT-CHEAP, DISARMING , DISARMINGLY, DISCERNING, DISCERNINGLY, DISCIPLE, DISCIPLINE, DISCIPLINED , DISCLOSE, DISCLOUD, DISCOVER, DISCOVERER, DISCOVERY, DISCREET , DISCRETE , DISCRETELY , DISCRETION, DISCRIMINATING , DISCRIMINATINGLY, DISCUMBER, DISCUSS, DISENCHANT, DISENSLAVE, DISENTANGLE, DIS-IDENTIFY, DISILLUSION, DISINVOVLE, DISNEY, DISPAND, DISPASSIONATE, DISPATCH, DISPENSE, DISPLAY, DISSOLVE, DISTINCT , DISTINCTION, DISTINCTIVE , DISTINCTIVELY , DISTINGUISHED , DISTINGUISHING, DISTRACTING, DISTRIBUTE, DISTRIBUTOR, DIVERSE , DIVERSELY , DIVERSIFIED, DIVERSITY, DIVERTED, DIVERTING , DIVINE , DIVINE LOVE, DIVINE MAGNIFICENCE, DIVINE SIGHT, DIVINE SOUL, DIVINE VOICE, DIVINE WILL, DIVINE WISDOM, DIVINELY, DIZEN, DO, DOABLE , DOCUMENT, DOER , DOES THE TRICK, DOGGONE, DOLL, DOMINANT , DOMINATE, DOMINATED, DOMINATES, DONATE, DONEE, DONOR, DOPE, DOPE CHILL OUT, DOTE, DOTE ON, DOTED ON, DOTING , DOTINGLY, DOUBTLESS , DOUGHTY , DOVELIKE, DOVETAIL, DOWN TO A FINE ART, DOWN-TO-EARTH, DOYEN, DOYENNE , DRAFT, DRAPE, DRAW, DRAWS ME BACK, DREAM, DREAMBOAT , DREAMILY, DREAMLAND, DREAMY , DRESS, DRIB, DRINK, DRIVE, DRIVEN , DRIVING , DROLL, DROOL, DROP DEAD GORGEOUS, DUB, DULCET, DULCIFY, DULCORATE, DUMBFOUNDED, DUMBFOUNDING, DUMMY-PROOF, DUPLICATE, DURABLE , DURABLY , DUTIFUL , DUTY, DYE, DYNAMIC , DYNAMICALLY, DYNAMITE, DYNAMO

http://positivewordsresearch.com/positive-words-that-start-with-d

[riyadhalnur]

Dragonfly

[hashseed]

My first thought was also Diamond. While not an element, it is a configuration of carbon.

I also thought to skip to E, but E doesn't have any good (non-radioactive) choice either.

So a new theme does make sense. Geographic locations are probably safe wrt trademark, but ianal.

[MylesBorins]

We likely should only use ideas that we can complete an alphabet with.

Some of these are a stretch, but it is fun how many cultures are represented

Herbs + Spices

Dill Epazote Fennel Garlic Horseradish Italian Seasoning Jalapeno Powder Kaffir Lavendar Marjoram Nutmeg Oregano Parsley Quatre epices Rosemary Sage Thyme Urfa Biber Vadouvan Wasabi Xanthan Gum Yellow Mustard Seed Za'atar

[Qard]

@hashseed Oh, interesting idea. Maybe we could name each release after a city from a country for which we have localization support. It'd be a great way to celebrate the diversity of our community. 😊

[MylesBorins]

Capitol Cities

Algiers Bangkok Copenhagen Dhaka El Aioun Funafuti Georgetown Hanoi Islamabad Jakarta Kiev Lima Manila Nassau Ottawa Paris Quito Reykjavík Santiago Tashkent Ulaanbaatar Vilnius Washington, D.C. 😢 THERE IS NO X 😢 Yerevan Zagreb

[hashseed]

Node.js 14 LTS "Garlic" 🤨. I could get onboard with Ginger. Also "quatre epices" just means "four spices".

I'd also like to pitch animals. But Ubuntu already has that.

Or trees. Stable.

Douglas, Eucalyptus, Fir, Gingko, Hazel, Ironwood, Joshua Tree, ...

[hashseed]

:cry: THERE IS NO X :cry:

FWIW Xi'an used to be a historic Chinese capital.

[benjamingr]

Capitals is too politic IMO.

Other than fun, is there any reason we need a code name to begin with?

(+1 on trees)

[targos]

Hot peppers

https://www.cayennediane.com/big-list-of-hot-peppers/

Node.js 10 "Dragon's breath"

[vdeturckheim]

Mythical anymals, come on what could be cooler than "Node.js Unicorn" ?

[bnb]

I do think it's worth noting that we can make the decision to avoid selecting names in alphabetical order with whatever we choose next - that does seem to be the downfall of the Elements option. 😊

[bnb]

+1 to:

• Comic book characters
• Hot Peppers

[hashseed]

I do think it's worth noting that we can make the decision to avoid selecting names in alphabetical order with whatever we choose next - that does seem to be the downfall of the Elements option.

Or we could simply arbitrarily skip letters. As long as the list is monotonically growing and the element has a stable isotope we are fine?

Dysprosium would actually work. We could also skip to Erbium or Europium. Then there is Flourine, Gold, Helium/Hydrogen...

We could also choose mineral names or gems. Amethyst, Beryl, Coral, Diamond, Emerald, Flourite, Garnet, Hematite, Iolite, Jade, Kryptonite, ...?

[gabrielschulhof]

Not sure about comic book characters. Those names may be copyright/trademark-encumbered.

https://github.com/jerryscript-project/jerryscript/pull/2013#discussion_r141041427

[addaleax]

I also like the idea of just using Deuterium since it’s pretty much “close enough” to being an element, and more importantly, its name sounds like it is one.

(Or maybe Dilithium 😉.)

[hashseed]

+1 for Dilithium.

Totally missed out on Adamantium, but we still got Kryptonite, Tiberium, Unobtanium and Vibranium.

[rvagg]

Ooo, Dilithium would be really fun, perhaps the way ahead here is to expand beyond elements and include compounds. Dilithium has added fun benefits here of course. +1 from me!

[gabrielschulhof]

+1 assuming we won't get any heat from Paramount.

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[nabsource]

Hard Woods?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_woods

Node.js 10 "Dogwood" Node.js 10 "Teak" Node.js 10 "Araucaria araucana"

[ChALkeR]

Cryptocurrencies. There should be enough of those to choose from for every letter… :rofl:

Seriously, «Deuterium» is pretty nice while keeping the old naming scheme. «Dilithium» is also good enough.

@gabrielschulhof, Dilithium is a name for a real molecule, Li₂, so why should we?

[jkrems]

I really like the suggestion of Dilithium (shouldn't be an issue I assume since it's also a real "thing" outside of trek) and Deuterium has a nice ring to it as well.

[julianduque]

Pokemon! I would love a Node.js 10 Ditto LTS and there are plenty of those https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_name

[ronkorving]

@julianduque Like with my proposed "Star Wars characters" and the proposed "comic book characters", "Pokemon characters" too are probably all trademarked. Probably best avoided.

[chorrell]

If you're looking for a new source of possible names to use, I would like to suggest this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_computing

[hashseed]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_computing

That's actually an awesome idea. But what order?

[chorrell]

Firstname, lastname? Ada (Lovelace) is a pretty obvious choice to start with if you want to restart and start with 'A' names.

[sam-github]

Don't know why we have code words at all, but I like Dubnium! For the irony James mentioned, and its easy to spell and to say.

[styfle]

I vote Dubnium because it's the easiest to say of the 3 elements and the shortest.

Also, think about the beats you could drop with v10! dub, dub, dub, dub...the system is down 😄

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I think we've come too far now to pick another theme, but I would be okay with including minerals or isotopes because it feels close enough to elements.

We can wait for the rollover from Z to pick a brand new theme.

[mhdawson]

+1 for Dilithium.

[HRK44]

Dubnium is cool.

I'd suggest Computer Science world known name as a list, for D I'd suggest Dijkstra - shortest path between nodes in a graph :)

[Matthias-Hermsdorf]

Next time start with Hydrogen, Helium,... and correlate the version with the atomic number. You will get the radiation problem decades later. But is to late for that.

[richardlau]

Next time start with Hydrogen, Helium,... and correlate the version with the atomic number. You will get the radiation problem decades later. But is to late for that.

I'm sure this was discussed when we originally named the first LTS release (argon) and that alphabetical order was chosen over atomic number. I can't find the issue where the decision was made, but https://github.com/nodejs/Release/issues/26 is the initial discussion and https://github.com/nodejs/node/pull/3212 landed the change.

[Announcement]

node version 10 code-name "dynamite"

[tunnckoCore]

Dynamite and Diamond are brilliant. I'm more for Diamond, because it represents fully that Nodejs now is absolutely amazing and with 99% support of ES2015, and probably to the end of v10 releases - 100%.

What about Douglas? On @douglascrockford.

[ljharb]

Why were element names used in the first place when there weren't any good options for D?

If the theme is changed (which would be unfortunate imo), could at least the next few decades' worth of names be pre-selected (or at least each one narrowed down to a list of acceptable choices)?

(Dilithium and deuterium both seem awesome)

[apapirovski]

I'm +1 on Dilithium.

But as @ljharb said, whether we're sticking with the same theme or changing it, we definitely need to assess the viability of E, F, G, etc. so we're not having this conversation again next time. 😄