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Inclusivity WG Meeting - 2015-11-24 08:00 PST #37

Closed zkat closed 8 years ago

zkat commented 8 years ago

Invited

Kat has volunteered to act as the facilitator for this session -- this means she won't have direct input but will help communication between participants happen smoothly. If you would like to be included, and you are a member of the WG, please comment below with the agenda items you'd particularly like to participate in if possible (or just don't mention any in particular).

Note to guests: This is not a discussion thread. Please refrain from addressing specific issues, and use the comments strictly to propose agenda items or request participation if you are a WG member.

Participation

The group is young, and we've seen a lot of points come up in the past week since activity started up again. This meeting is a good time to hash out communication and understandings about strategies and scopes for this working group. You'll note that there are no inclusivity-specific agenda items, and most of it is based around understanding where we are as a WG and where to go from here, structurally.

To propose additional agenda items (and be included in the meeting), please create an issue stating the item to be added and mention it in the comments here. Please avoid specific points about the agenda proposal, and simply state what the item is, and how it fits into the scope of the meeting, along with any questions you're hoping the agenda item can answer (again, within the reasonable scope of the meeting). We will update the threads with the results of our discussions. Please do not use agenda issue threads for open discussion.

nodejs/inclusivity

jasnell commented 8 years ago

I will be on vacation and will not be attending. On Nov 17, 2015 6:37 PM, "Kat Marchán" notifications@github.com wrote:

Invited

Kat has volunteered to act as the facilitator for this session -- this means she won't have direct input but will help communication between participants happen smoothly. If you would like to be included, and you are a member of the WG, please comment below with the agenda items you'd particularly like to participate in if possible (or just don't mention any in particular).

Note to guests: This is not a discussion thread. Please refrain from addressing specific issues, and use the comments strictly to propose agenda items or request participation if you are a WG member. Participation

TODO: Hangout links Agenda

The group is young, and we've seen a lot of points come up in the past week since activity started up again. This meeting is a good time to hash out communication and understandings about strategies and scopes for this working group. You'll note that there are no inclusivity-specific agenda items, and most of it is based around understanding where we are as a WG and where to go from here, structurally.

To propose additional agenda items (and be included in the meeting), please create an issue stating the item to be added and mention it in the comments here. Please avoid specific points about the agenda proposal, and simply state what the item is, and how it fits into the scope of the meeting, along with any questions you're hoping the agenda item can answer (again, within the reasonable scope of the meeting). We will update the threads with the results of our discussions. Please do not use agenda issue threads for open discussion.

(Kat note: I added a bunch of these based on ongoing discussions -- I will create separate issues for them and link them here shortly). nodejs/inclusivity

  • Scope of Inclusivity Working Group Charter and CoC
  • Membership vetting process
  • Moderation and issue management in WG
    • Managing brigades and hostile actors
    • Preventing multiple directed responses to individuals ("dogpiling")
    • Other strategies for reducing temperature
    • Scope of Issue and PR usage in nodejs/inclusivity
  • Private/public balance
  • Facilitation as a core competency of WG - #28 https://github.com/nodejs/inclusivity/issues/28
  • Meeting structure and agenda process

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  • Proposal process for TSC implementing wider-ranging process changes
  • Moderation in wider Node community

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/nodejs/inclusivity/issues/37.

zkat commented 8 years ago

Sorry, @jasnell -- is there someone you feel can effectively represent the things you want to talk about, in relation to the agenda items above? Perhaps they can join, instead.

jasnell commented 8 years ago

If I have input I will participate via the github issue tracker as time allows. If the goal is to have TSC representation, any of the other TSC members would be more than qualified (likely more so than I). On Nov 17, 2015 7:01 PM, "Kat Marchán" notifications@github.com wrote:

Sorry, @jasnell https://github.com/jasnell -- is there someone you feel can effectively represent the things you want to talk about, in relation to the agenda items above? Perhaps they can join, instead.

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/nodejs/inclusivity/issues/37#issuecomment-157587825.

zkat commented 8 years ago

Note that for the time being (most likely the next week or so), I'd like to reduce the noise on the issue tracker as much as possible -- that means my preference is to simply not have any substantive discussions outside of the meeting, until we're able to hash out better processes for having positive, productive discussions. I don't think we're ready to use github issues yet, but this is one of the main things we'd like to talk about during the (public) meeting next week. Not that the results will be set in stone, either.

950c commented 8 years ago

Does the meeting really take place on the 11th day of the 24th month of 2015? (2015-24-11)

I had no idea the year 2015 identified as having more than the standard 12 months, but that's good for it.

zkat commented 8 years ago

Thanks for the heads up. Go figure that I'd mess up when trying to use a date format precisely because it would disambiguate the weird US date order :)

nebrius commented 8 years ago

I would like to participate, as I did some initial work on the membership vetting process.

Do we want to do a 1 hour meeting again? It may be nothing, but I am a bit concerned we won't have enough time to get to all of the agenda items. Maybe we could do a longer meeting? Or perhaps we could do two sessions in the same day/a day apart? (Just brainstorming here)

zkat commented 8 years ago

My suspicion here, when I made the agenda items, is that most of these are actually really uncontroversial. Most of the issues we're seeing with WG mechanics seem to be misunderstandings about the attitude and scope of this WG. I think the actual contents of what we want are mostly in alignment, and a short but facilitated discussion that we can document might be all we need to move forward.

nebrius commented 8 years ago

ok, that makes sense then

thefourtheye commented 8 years ago

I am in

ghost commented 8 years ago

i'm in as well unless something comes up (which it shouldn't)

zkat commented 8 years ago

Thanks all for participating! I'll put up an issue for the next WG meeting when we figure out when and how to have it next. Please remember to update issues relevant to you/assigned to you and such. See you next time~

thefourtheye commented 8 years ago

Sorry people. Chennai is full of water. Couldn't get much time with computer :(

Trott commented 8 years ago

Yikes! http://www.weather.com/news/weather/news/dozens-dead-chennai-india-floods

Stay safe, @thefourtheye!

ashleygwilliams commented 8 years ago

<3 don't worry about it @thefourtheye -- and yes, what @Trott said, stay safe!

nebrius commented 8 years ago

oh no, be careful @thefourtheye!