Node.js Loaders Team Meeting 2024-04-09

mhdawson commented 5 months ago

Time

UTC Tue 09-Apr-2024 18:30 (06:30 PM):

Timezone	Date/Time
US / Pacific	Tue 09-Apr-2024 11:30 (11:30 AM)
US / Mountain	Tue 09-Apr-2024 12:30 (12:30 PM)
US / Central	Tue 09-Apr-2024 13:30 (01:30 PM)
US / Eastern	Tue 09-Apr-2024 14:30 (02:30 PM)
EU / Western	Tue 09-Apr-2024 19:30 (07:30 PM)
EU / Central	Tue 09-Apr-2024 20:30 (08:30 PM)
EU / Eastern	Tue 09-Apr-2024 21:30 (09:30 PM)
Moscow	Tue 09-Apr-2024 21:30 (09:30 PM)
Hangzhou	Wed 10-Apr-2024 02:30 (02:30 AM)
Tokyo	Wed 10-Apr-2024 03:30 (03:30 AM)
Sydney	Wed 10-Apr-2024 04:30 (04:30 AM)

Links

Minutes Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CjclSI0FlSZKdC4oS40nzeku0otv_xTZAc31J8nez7Q/edit

Agenda

Extracted from loaders-agenda labelled issues and pull requests from the nodejs org prior to the meeting.

nodejs/node

Proposal for a simple, universal module loader hooks API to replace require() monkey-patching #52219
ESM Hook deadlocks since 21.2.0 a3e09b3 #50948
esm: spawn only one hooks thread #50752

Invited

Loaders team: @nodejs/loaders

Observers/Guests

Notes

The agenda comes from issues labelled with loaders-agenda across all of the repositories in the nodejs org. Please label any additional issues that should be on the agenda before the meeting starts.

Joining the meeting

link for participants: https://zoom.us/j/97506450082
For those who just want to watch: https://www.youtube.com/c/nodejs+foundation/live

dygabo commented 5 months ago

Based on the input I heard during the collab summit from last week that the @nodejs/loaders team is looking for more collaborators and support in implementing some of the open tasks, considering also that I am interested in any contributions that might bring node.js esm implementation/modules to a state that is APM friendlier I would like to participate to the ongoing discussion around #52219 and see if there is something I can do to support the efforts.

JakobJingleheimer commented 5 months ago

Hiya @dygabo we would love some help! The issue you cited maaay be a very large first-bite though.

Do you have any particular areas of expertise? If so, I can maybe point you to an open issue; you're welcome to try at the one you cited, but I worry you may spin your wheels.

I'm returning from a hiatus, so I may be able to support; I was hoping to jump back onto nodejs/node#50752 (and maybe some cleanup).

dygabo commented 5 months ago

Hi @JakobJingleheimer and thanks for the reply, I work in observability domain, being part of a team working on a node.js apm solution. I have some previous contributions to node.js loaders area about two years ago, concerning returning the module type from the resolve hook instead of during load. I for sure still would need to read into the open issues and also into the challenges that you have currently on your agenda and I think I could participate in the discussions, maybe also some code changes. I'm sure that having a working solution on #52219 is not an easy task and I did not want to imply that I would solve that on my own, without collaboration with the rest of the team. More like the other way around, it would make sense IMO that the team continues to work on it and maybe I could help with some input, ideas, reviews, tests, etc. I could jump in one of the group meetings (e.g. this one today) and we could discuss it more and maybe take it from there. What do you think?

JakobJingleheimer commented 5 months ago

Oh sure! Do join this evening's meeting if it happens 🙂

GeoffreyBooth commented 5 months ago

I have a conflict for the first half-hour, can we start 30 minutes late?

JakobJingleheimer commented 5 months ago

I can do

GeoffreyBooth commented 5 months ago

@joyeecheung We’d love to see you too if you can attend, at UTC Tue 09-Apr-2024 18:30.

jsumners-nr commented 5 months ago

I'd like to attend to at least listen in, but my team always has its "planning" and "grooming" meetings at this time.

JakobJingleheimer commented 5 months ago

Should we reschedule this occurrence for a different day? (Any later is too late for me)

jsumners-nr commented 5 months ago

I doubt it's worth rescheduling on my account, but my only viable day would be Friday.

jsumners-nr commented 5 months ago

Looks like I can pop in for the first 30 minutes today.

GeoffreyBooth commented 5 months ago

Looks like I can pop in for the first 30 minutes today.

FYI we’ll start at UTC Tue 09-Apr-2024 18:30 (06:30 PM) today. I just updated the top post.

jsumners-nr commented 5 months ago

Then maybe next time.

joyeecheung commented 5 months ago

I think I can attend the first 30 minutes but will need to go after that or I will have no bed to sleep on...

joyeecheung commented 5 months ago

(Or maybe I can rejoin after leaving for ~15 minutes, not too sure)

nodejs / loaders