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Noisebridge's pre-Reboot policies and processes.
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Backed out Community WorkGroup Language #25

Closed gregorydillon closed 10 years ago

gregorydillon commented 10 years ago

Backed out Community WorkGroup Language.

While it may be a good idea to administer this through the Community Work Group initiative, I agreed with Naomi's comment that it appears premature. Changes name to fair usage policy, and suggests tailoring response to problematic behavior short of banning. Addresses Sleeping, Food, Storage, Out of Bounds areas, and "asked to leave" practice.

kevinjos commented 10 years ago

I try it out Greg. Still please, explain to me under what circumstances will anyone need an exemption from the anti-harassment policy to wake someone?

gregorydillon commented 10 years ago

My personal experience on this was with Josh, not for waking him, but for talking to him about sleeping at Noisebridge. I didn't wake him, but after he awoke I talked to him with concern about his sleeping at Noisebridge. He told me that he had checked with you and that you had told him sleeping was allowed at Noisebridge. That there were no rules against sleeping at Noisebridge.

I said in effect that I understood that things happen in life, and I wasn't trying to come down harshly, but that his always being there was keeping others from fully enjoying the place. He challenged me to explain how his sleeping hurt others, but interrupted me as I tried. He stated that he has an apartment in the Spring Street area of Manhattan, and is not homeless, but pivoted so say since I was harassing him for basically living at noisebridge, and was breaking the policy, with the implication that I was harassing him for being homeless.

gregorydillon commented 10 years ago

Kevin, I realized I missed addressing one point. I don't think of this as being an exemption to the anti-harassment policy, I am saying it should be clear that the policy doesn't cover this case. Addressing that someone is living at Noisebridge, is not harassing the person on the basis of homelessness, even if the person finds the attention unwelcome.

tildelowengrimm commented 10 years ago

@gregorydillon It looks as though there might be more edits in here than you actually meant to propose. Is this actually your intended pull-request, or is only some of it your intent?

gregorydillon commented 10 years ago

Tom. Correct. I'm still learning to not make errors with github. When I made a pull request I meant for it to be on one file, and it followed its own logic and made a pull requests on everything in that directory. I could try to clean up it, but today is too busy to do it today.

Conclusion. - I don't mean to include in the pull request the sentence to clarify that addressing with someone that they are residing at Noisebridge is not harassment in the meaning of the Noisebridge anti-harassment policy. Its a proper point, but I don't want to mix too many things at once. Secondly, the file that has the references to the CWG, is something that I closed as a pull request per Naomi suggestion, but yeah, I didn't do it completely right.

gregorydillon commented 10 years ago

I'm going to close this pull request because it fits into other pieces that have been partly superseded by organizational changes. I continue to stand by the general concept