Small and capital letter must be aligned to a baseline.

[rovasiras]

Small and capital letter must be alined to a bottom baseline. Only one publisber uses center aligned letters, which is confusing.

Font

'NotoSansOldHungarian-Regular.ttf'.

[kovacshviktor]

@simoncozens May I ask You to prepare this Issue? This may not be important to you, but it is to the LibreOffice project.

[simoncozens]

Old Hungarian is a disputed script and we need input from subject experts before moving forward. I am preparing meetings with some of the people involved in the Unicode encoding, and will get back to this issue when we have consensus. Please note that posting the exact same comment in three different issues is just annoying, and makes it less likely for me to prioritize this, not more.

[kovacshviktor]

Old Hungarian is a disputed script and we need input from subject experts before moving forward. I am preparing meetings with some of the people involved in the Unicode encoding, and will get back to this issue when we have consensus. Please note that posting the exact same comment in three different issues is just annoying, and makes it less likely for me to prioritize this, not more.

Thank You!

[kovacshviktor]

Old Hungarian is a disputed script and we need input from subject experts before moving forward. I am preparing meetings with some of the people involved in the Unicode encoding, and will get back to this issue when we have consensus. Please note that posting the exact same comment in three different issues is just annoying, and makes it less likely for me to prioritize this, not more.

Who will decide, which issue(s) must be prepared? Members of Unicode, or is it for others to decide?

[kovacshviktor]

Old Hungarian is a disputed script and we need input from subject experts before moving forward. I am preparing meetings with some of the people involved in the Unicode encoding, and will get back to this issue when we have consensus. Please note that posting the exact same comment in three different issues is just annoying, and makes it less likely for me to prioritize this, not more.

Who are experts? Member rovasinfo and Rovas Foundation? We talk about same persons. Member of Institute for Hungarian Studies? Their submission really was written by members of Rovas Foundation. In 2008 congress in Gödöllő city it was agreed that the letters "x", "y", "w", "q" should be defined as ligatures. Michael Everson and Szabolcs Szelp laid down these rules and adopted them in a submission. The submission also describes other ligatures,too. At the meeting in Solt in 2012, the majority supported the Everson-Szelp submission, not the one by members of the Rovás Info. The members of the rovásnfo wanted to introduce signs that were never used. They invented the Kazar runes (or Kazár rovás). I'll send you some links and documents that clearly describe everything.

[kovacshviktor]

Old Hungarian is a disputed script and we need input from subject experts before moving forward. I am preparing meetings with some of the people involved in the Unicode encoding, and will get back to this issue when we have consensus. Please note that posting the exact same comment in three different issues is just annoying, and makes it less likely for me to prioritize this, not more.

Decision in 2008, in Budapest and after that in Gödöllő city:

Document about Old Hungarian from 2009 is fake: For example:Klára Friedrich does not remember, that she would have signed.

Article of Klára Friedrich about "400 years old q, x etc..y": https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2023/23067-hungarian-response.pdf note: Hungarian "S" means English "Sh", Hungarian "Sz" means English "S". In the other words, the "Sk letter" means "Shk" letter, it does not mean "X"

There is a submission from Dr. Gábor Hosszú: https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2012/12014-n4183-hungarian.pdf Note: He received his PhD in electrical engineering. The Old Hungarian (Szekely-Hungarian Rovas) alphabet never has "letter Gh", "letter open V" and "sharp K" The thing about the Khazar language is that even the nature of the language is disputed. It has nothing to do with the Hungarian language. In other words: it was incomprehensible to us why they wanted to include foreign alphabets in the standard. After this, another meeting was called in the town of Solt, where Dr. Gábor Hosszú was withdrawn. Articles about this can be found at https://magyarrovas.hu, the most important ones are translated into English. I can't find the articles right now, I'll look them up if you want.

There is a submission from "Institute for Hungarian Studies" (reality is that, the Rovás Foundation's work - "RA" in digital signature - , I write about them previously) https://www.unicode.org/L2/L2021/21115-old-hungarian.pdf The submission contains a number of misleading "facts".

The decision rests with Michael Everson and Szabolcs Szelp. In a private message exchange, Everson wrote that neither he nor I want to change. Please ask Michael Everson! (Szabolcs Szelp would like to remain incognito.)

[kovacshviktor]

@simoncozens I am sorry, I wrote before letter "Sk" and "Shk" letters instead of "Ks" and "KSh

[kovacshviktor]

@simoncozens The congress in Solt city in 2012: Solt The members of the Rovas Foundation are Tamás Rumi and László Sípos. They have been deleted from the group picture, at their request. Dr. Hosszú's withdrawal

There aren't another Foundations, because Tamás Rumi and László Sípos have enought money, the others will not have as much money. The others research, organise competitions and publish a newspaper. For example, Miklós Szondi is a teacher by profession, and Klára Friedrich is a teacher, too.

[kovacshviktor]

@simoncozens I wrote that they organise competitions because it's easier for students to learn to write if we align capital and small letters to a baseline. In this case, there are 3 guiding lines that students need to pay attention to. If we center align, the number of guide lines is 4. Center alignment may look good on a metal city name board, but is not good for anything else. This is pedagogy. If you don't want to do a baseline alignment, I will.

[kovacshviktor]

Old Hungarian is a disputed script and we need input from subject experts before moving forward. I am preparing meetings with some of the people involved in the Unicode encoding, and will get back to this issue when we have consensus. Please note that posting the exact same comment in three different issues is just annoying, and makes it less likely for me to prioritize this, not more.

Happened something since?

[kovacshviktor]

@simoncozens Did it happened something?

[kovacshviktor]

@simoncozens Did you discussed it with subject experts?

[berrymot]

he will respond when he does. you don't need to keep pinging him

[kovacshviktor]

@simoncozens What's the news?

[kovacshviktor]

@simoncozens I apologise for my previous posts. I was nervous.

[kovacshviktor]

@simoncozens Aligning the letters to a baseline also makes it easier to draw capital ligatures, I think.

[berrymot]

... again, he'll get to this eventually