Correction in glyph of jña in Siddham

[sridatta1]

Defect Report

Title

Glyph of jña in Siddham

Font

Noto Sans Siddham

Where the font came from, and when

For example: Noto Sans Siddham https://fonts.google.com/download?family=Noto%20Sans%20Siddham Date: 2022-06-22 (preferred format)

OS name and version

Ubuntu 18.04

Issue

The existing glyph of jña has the regular form of ña, similar to Sharada, Nagari and other north Indic scripts, jña would be special form

1. Steps to reproduce 𑖕𑖿𑖗

2. Observed results

3. Expected results Similar to

4. Additional information jñā in horyuji manuscript.

From Fig 14 of L2/12-234R Siddham proposal

From fig 45 of L2/12-234R

From Fig 39 of L2/12-234R

(https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8301004s.r=sanskrite%20siddham?rk=85837;2#) See http://www.visiblemantra.org/alphabet.html http://www.siddham.org/yuan1/mantra/g_mantra_heart2.html

ApDevaSiddham font Heart sutra ( from Central Asia) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Prajnyaapaaramitaa_Hridaya_Pel.sogd.jpg After expert opinion, the glyph can be changed. Cc @tosche for your opinion based on your sources. Similarly the glyph for jjña needs to be added.

Character data

𑖕𑖿𑖗 𑖕𑖿𑖕𑖿𑖗

[Tosche]

My source is Bonji Taikan (梵字大鑑) which shows the jna in the form of default Noto Sans, and the 3-like shape as the alternate form. I'm sure the default/alternate status varies from source to source, and I am It's already included in Noto as the alternate, so at least redrawing won't be necessary.

(Sorry for the blur but I think you get the idea)

Another source is 梵字悉曇章 from 1735, found in the National Diet Library.

[sridatta1]

Thank you, In the the running texts which you have come across, which form of jña commonly occurs? Is the default form of Noto Sans font found there?

[Tosche]

I have only checked these tables; Japanese monks uses to make tons of these so-called exhaustive list of possible syllables as part of their Buddhist practice, so we have plenty of tables which I thought was enough as references. I haven't associated the 3-like forms in my brain much (to me, it felt more like jṇa that was mis-transcribed), but I'm no specialist in Sanskrit.

[sridatta1]

Thanks, for confirming that existing forms in Noto Sans are not incorrect.

[sridatta1]

to me, it felt more like jṇa that was mis-transcribed.

It is part of evolution from Brahmi, most other North Indic scripts too have 3-like forms for jña. I can provide the images later.

[simoncozens]

It's already included in Noto as the alternate, so at least redrawing won't be necessary.

I can't seem to find it! What's the glyph name?

[dscorbett]

The other glyph is seed_ja_nnsidd, available by applying 'ss04' to <U+11595, U+115BF, U+1159C> jṇa (not jña):