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Mahjong Tile Designs - Circle Suite #3

Closed tjablin closed 1 year ago

tjablin commented 2 years ago

Title

Mahjong Tile Designs - Circle Suite

Font

NotoSansSymbols2-Regular.ttf

Where the font came from, and when

Pre-installed

Font Version

2.003

OS name and version

Debian GNU/Linux rodete

Application name and version

If the issue is observed using a specific app.

Issue

The design of the circle suite in the Mahjong Tile Unicode Block looks weird in Noto Sans Symbols 2.

Currently, the sizes of the circles for the four, five, six, seven, and eight of dots are non-uniform. Typically, these circles are the same size and only one, two, and three have larger circles.

Currently, the six of circles features six equally spaced circles in a rectangular two by three layout. Typically, the bottom four circles on the six of circle are arranged in a tight square and the top two circles are offset by a large gap. Without the gap between the two dot and bottom four circles, I think it is difficult to rapidly distinguish the six and eight of circles, particularly at small font sizes. The six of circles typically looks like the eight of circles with the second row of circles deleted.

Currently, the seven of circles has four circles in a tight rectangle on the bottom and three circles at a thirty degree angle on top. Typically, the bottom four circles should be arranged in a square identical to the six of circles. The seven of circles typically looks like the eight of circles with the top four circles replaced with three circles on a diagonal.

Currently, the eight of circles has two columns of four circles separated by a gap. Typically, these two columns touch.

Currently, the nine of circles has narrow gaps between each row of circles. Typically, the top and bottom row of the nine of circles aligns of the top and bottom row of the eight of circles.

Photo of a Typical Mahjong Sets Photo from Wikipedia

Character data

๐Ÿ€™๐Ÿ€š๐Ÿ€›๐Ÿ€œ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ€ž๐Ÿ€Ÿ๐Ÿ€ ๐Ÿ€ก

U+1F01A - U1F021

Screenshot

Screenshot from 2022-05-11 14-35-38

ChiefMikeK commented 2 years ago

These are per the UNICODEยฎ๏ธ standard;
๐Ÿ€ก - U+1F021 - decodeunicode.org

http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1F000.pdf

twardoch commented 2 years ago

The Decodeunicode website is not the Unicode standard but an independent project.

The official source of the example representations of characters are the Unicode charts:

https://unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1F000.pdf

My view is that the Noto font should be improved to make the characters more in-line with the tradition of the game.

simoncozens commented 2 years ago

Yeah, the Unicode reference glyphs are also wrong here. We can do better. (I thought maybe there were regional variations, but it looks like what @tjablin describes is applicable to all Mahjongg styles: https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/้บป้›€็‰Œ#ใƒ‡ใ‚ถใ‚คใƒณ )

Thanks for the clear bug report, we will decide on priority and hopefully work on it soon!

twardoch commented 2 years ago

One could say that these symbols are a particular form of digits (numerals) โ€” and itโ€™s not surprising that a disambiguation happened in the tradition. Disambiguation is an indicator of maturity of a sign system.

simoncozens commented 1 year ago

Here is the new design:

Screenshot 2023-01-27 at 09 33 05
tjablin commented 1 year ago

Thanks for the new design! I think they are much improved versus the old glyphs. Would you consider aligning the top and bottom row of the nine of circles with the top and bottom row of the eight of circles?

ChiefMikeK commented 1 year ago

How about a survey/vote โ†‘๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘Žโ†“

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