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Lightweight Tox client
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What is the NEW download location for uTox ? #1116

Closed darkman088 closed 8 years ago

darkman088 commented 8 years ago

Hello,

after quite a long period, I wanted to update my tox client, in order to see what's new and perhaps enjoy some new functionality. I went to the standard location, where I am downloading it from: jenkins.libtoxcore.so But the site doesn't open !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kindly advise where the new download locations is... Thanks a lot in advance!

tsudoko commented 8 years ago

http://utox.org/download

darkman088 commented 8 years ago

Nope, this isn't the real deal... For example, where is uTox for Win x64 there ? Where are the .rpm files... jenkins.libtoxcore.so was FAR better, it had all the platforms...

tsudoko commented 8 years ago

The link redirects to the version for your platform based on your browser's user agent. The new jenkins is at https://build.tox.chat, the new binaries page is at https://wiki.tox.chat/binaries.

darkman088 commented 8 years ago

Thanks a lot, for Windows it should be OK, but no matter how hard I tried, I still wasn't able to find .rpm files (only .deb). Thanks for pointing me the .rpm files...

darkman088 commented 8 years ago

I would really appreciate it, if someone could provide the right answer!

Thanks!

stal888 commented 8 years ago

RPM files don't exist currently. There is a statically-linked uTox here https://build.tox.chat/job/uTox_build_linux_x86_64_release/ and the Debian dependencies are libX11-6, libxext6, libxrender1, libfontconfig1, libfreetype6, libdbus-1-3, libv4l-0, libopenal1. You could try installing the equivalents for your distro and see if it works...

darkman088 commented 8 years ago

HOW COME that RPM files don't exist ??? Sorry, but you gotta be kidding !! And today is not the 1st of April !! You couldn't have possibly stopped making rpm files !! All my experience with software is, that things are ONLY going worse, never better!! Until now, I had the impression, that uTox is almost the only exception! Please don't spoil this impression...

P.S.: Please at least supply the latest rpm available, as I haven't been checking it for quite a while...

linux-modder commented 8 years ago

Since the port from the no longer used tox.im domain not everything has been moved / rebuilt if you so upset and skilled help out by compiling one for the community to help the devs rather than merely bitch.

stal888 commented 8 years ago

Don't be rude

GrayHatter commented 8 years ago

um... it's trivial to compile.... install the dependencies with your choice of package manager. then type make && make install

Otherwise, RTFM and build your own package... If you use a real distro there might even be pre-made install ready for you... https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/utox-git/

darkman088 commented 8 years ago

@GrayHatter - I think you are getting me wrong. It's not about if it's easy or hard to compile it. It's about that BEFORE there were RPM files on Jenkin's website, and now there are NOT !! it is that something quite important, that was available before, is gone now. It is that users were relying on something and now they are left alone !!! Is it REALLY that difficult to just resume, what you, guys, have been doing already ???

GrayHatter commented 8 years ago

Unfortunately, they kinda will.

I'm working on getting a package repo for Debian, Redhat, arch any anything else that's easy... On Aug 17, 2015 10:13 PM, "Orion" notifications@github.com wrote:

@darkman088 https://github.com/darkman088 How come you're the only one complaining about the RPM files no longer being provided? Everyone else who thought they were important to them are probably just doing the most logical thing and compiling it themselves, it's not hard at all to do. So my suggestion is to first compile, if you have issues doing so then ask for help. Griping about this with exclamation points!!! and LOUD WORDS will not get the files uploaded. Things like this happen all the time, that is why the source is there for you.

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/notsecure/uTox/issues/1116#issuecomment-132073202.

darkman088 commented 8 years ago

Does this mean, that there will be .rpm files soon again ? You gave me HUGE hope with your last post! Thanks!

darkman088 commented 8 years ago

@quantumpacket - I have overseen your post and I just became aware about it. Now, let me ask you a question: what do we all want to achieve here ? Provide a PLATFORM for secure and private communication. The more people use this platform, the better it will be for the platform and the better it will be for the people! We want EVERYBODY - from our 5-6 year old children, to our grandparents to use it! Now go to my father and explain him first what does it mean to compile a program and how to do it - I guarantee you to spend 5-6 tough hours and furthermore - he will ask you tomorrow or in a week about 80% of the procedure, as he doesn't recall it anymore. Then come to people like me - who are THAT busy, that they do not have enough time to sleep and explain them, that they need to not only invest hours and days into first RESEARCHING which is the best program for the above mentioned secure and private communication, but they need to go beyond that and care about compiling a program! And once again, we all here want Tox to become the habit of most of the population, not only of IT-freaks like us! I don't want to be rude in any means, but I do not agree !! If you have a fraction of the will to establish this platform, you will provide 32-bit and 64-bit versions for Windows, Mac, Linux (source code, static binaries, rpm, .deb, etc. etc.), Solaris, Android, iPhone AND Symbian !!! Then people will have no excuse for not using Tox! This is EXACTLY what the famous agencies are counting on - most of the people will say: Why to waste time, why to compile it?? it's too difficult and too cumbersome! Let's just use Skype or facebook! My blah-blah girlfriends are on that platform anyway! And I want to communicate with them, not with the IT-freaks using Tox!! And with this approach you are giving bullets to exactly those agencies, interested in mass data gathering and eavesdropping on whole communities/cities/countries/continents/mmm... planets). I hope you are getting my point now...

darkman088 commented 8 years ago

I like your post! I can't agree more with you! Even though I am IT folk as well, I wasn't aware of many of the points you are describing until very recently, also because I am far from software development (otherwise I would be helping you, guys, with the coding!!) And I see that you obviously agree with most of what I said. I can only add: let's hope that YOU are right and that end-users are not IT illiterate... But I can only speak about people from my surrounding, people who don't work in IT - the picture is very very grave... Even when I speak to friends of mine, IT people, working lots of overtimes on serious projects - I am advertising for Tox and I am shocked by their attitude !! Well, I don't care that it's not encrypted. Well, I don't discuss any secrets with my contacts on the xyz app. Well, I am not sharing any bank data or other confidential information... They just don't get it how complex the whole thing is !! This is why I am so much with you, guys, and even if I may sometimes sound weird, this is only because I have quite some experience with IT and I can look at Tox from both perspectives - of an advanced user and of a professional and I am trying to help and to push you in the right direction, so that you will be really successful !! I really want you to make history, pioneers !! Cheers :-)

linux-modder commented 8 years ago

As Someone who personally deals with those (of all ages) with mental handicaps and literacy levels tech and non tech, It boils down to the method of explanation and make a connection that holds (even for those with memory disorders). I would even go as far in your case @darkman088 as to compile for your loved one and work with someone if not thyself to draft up or help the team draft a 'community' How to or a Do's and Don'ts much like the tor-project has done. And take baby steps. e.g. Take a common interest and give a 30k foot view of the process and 'field' and as the end-user whomever they be is comfortable with lowering into the weeds. Yes it is a time commitment but its also something you have to consider if you want an 'informed' client / end-user.

darkman088 commented 8 years ago

A few posts ago I kindly asked if it would be possible to at least obtain the latest RPM file which was made...

linux-modder commented 8 years ago

@darkman088: they are being worked on. patience or help with getting your hands dirty current builds for ALL linux (as a tarball with ready binary) are here:

https://build.tox.chat/view/Clients/job/qTox_build_linux_x86_release/ https://build.tox.chat/view/Clients/job/qTox_build_linux_x86_64_release/

Jeeppler commented 8 years ago

@linux-modder

https://build.tox.chat/view/Clients/job/qTox_build_linux_x86_64_release/ gives a HTTP 404 error

and your sources are not from uTox

Jeeppler commented 8 years ago

@GrayHatter can you also create a windows package for Chocolatey (https://chocolatey.org/)?

darkman088 commented 8 years ago

People, please don't get me wrong - what I really meant was - until some point in time, there were RPM files. I kindly asked for the last one available. If I managed to move the mountain with this thread and you decided to start providing RPM files again, then I will wait of course, I have no problems currently, I am just interested in eventually implemented new functionality. Many thanks to all of you for the quick reactions!

stal888 commented 8 years ago

RPMs will be back as soon as we figure out how to make them

stal888 commented 8 years ago

@darkman088 https://build.tox.chat/view/packages/job/uTox-rpm_pkg_linux_debian-8_x86-64_nightly_release/2/

It would be helpful if you try installing that and tell me what's wrong

GrayHatter commented 8 years ago

@jeppler yes, it's on my todo list

On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 12:43 PM, ⠎⠞⠁⠇ notifications@github.com wrote:

@darkman088 https://github.com/darkman088 https://build.tox.chat/view/packages/job/uTox-rpm_pkg_linux_debian-8_x86-64_nightly_release/2/

It would be helpful if you try installing that and tell me what's wrong

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/notsecure/uTox/issues/1116#issuecomment-132755504.