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Windows 10 - Login Dialog: Prompt to Press a Key when Displayed #10583

Open elliott94 opened 4 years ago

elliott94 commented 4 years ago

Is your feature request related to a problem? Please describe.

I'm not quite sure on the best approach to resolve this, so will describe the issue and would be grateful to get your thoughts.

With Windows 7 and earlier, if the Login dialog was configured to be displayed on boot, this was presented to the user and either prompted for a password to be entered, or for a user to choose their name from a list of accounts stored on the machine - if NVDA was set to start with Windows, there was no question as to what the operating system required from the user.

As of Windows 10, however, this behaviour has somewhat changed. Upon a successful boot, the current time is displayed to the user, along with a background image. This screen will stay indefinitely on the screen until a key is pressed. From both personal experience and from having conversations with several NVDA users who are new to Windows 10, this step isn't the most obvious and has left them waiting at this screen wondering what to do next!

Describe the solution you'd like

I'm not sure how this is visually displayed to Windows users, but is there any way that we could consider adding an NVDA hint to "press a key" or similar to continue? I unfortunately don't have a Windows 10 machine to hand, so haven't been able to observe how Narrator and other screen readers deal with this new login interface.

Describe alternatives you've considered

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josephsl commented 4 years ago

Hi, Narrator does not even announce a hint about it at all, and it isn’t even shown on screen (unless I’m really wrong). Thanks.

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Is your feature request related to a problem? Please describe.

I'm not quite sure on the best approach to resolve this, so will describe the issue and would be grateful to get your thoughts.

With Windows 7 and earlier, if the Login dialog was configured to be displayed on boot, this was presented to the user and either prompted for a password to be entered, or for a user to choose their name from a list of accounts stored on the machine - if NVDA was set to start with Windows, there was no question as to what the operating system required from the user.

As of Windows 10, however, this behaviour has somewhat changed. Upon a successful boot, the current time is displayed to the user, along with a background image. This screen will stay indefinitely on the screen until a key is pressed. From both personal experience and from having conversations with several NVDA users who are new to Windows 10, this step isn't the most obvious and has left them waiting at this screen wondering what to do next!

Describe the solution you'd like

I'm not sure how this is visually displayed to Windows users, but is there any way that we could consider adding an NVDA hint to "press a key" or similar to continue? I unfortunately don't have a Windows 10 machine to hand, so haven't been able to observe how Narrator and other screen readers deal with this new login interface.

Describe alternatives you've considered

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stickbear2015 commented 4 years ago

the fingerprint login method doesn’t require a keypress, just if a password or pin (either alpha numeric or numeric) is required are you required to hit a key to get the edit box.

I use the escape key because hey, your in my way whatever you are, get out of my way, please so I can enter my password/pin.

For some unknown reason this only happens with NVDA or JAWS, narrator for some obscure reason doesn’t require you to hit anything to enter your password/pin, or if it does, it just does it for you and avoids whatever this obscure date/time screen is.

I asked someone sighted about this before composing this response, and apparently this is a valid screen and the login screen is hidden behind this silly date/time nonsense.

I have access to a couple other machines when I actually get to my desk, so I’ll check this out on them as well, just to see if there’s something machine/build specific.

Adriani90 commented 4 months ago

@seanbudd is it possible to prioritize this? It seems this is still the case with NVDA 2024.2 both on Windows 10 and 11. For me at least it caused several times that I entered the wrong password because I didn't know that I have to press a key first to make the password field appear.