josephsl
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4 years ago Hi, an important question: what is the speech synthesizer you are using? Partly this can be explained by which synthesizer is in use, as “sw3itching languages” in this context is actually changing NVDA’s interface language, not the speech itself. Thanks.
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Steps to reproduce:
- Open NVDA.
- Set your language preference to English in the NVDA preferences menu. Open any text editor of your choosing and type a numbered value that has a suffix, such as: '75th' and '250th'. An example sentence could be: "Harry finished in 75th place and Sam finished in 250th place", then have the screen reader read that sentence.
- Change your language preference to French in the NVDA preferences menu. And have the screen reader read that same sentence in french.
Actual behavior:
In english, you will notice the numbered values are read with correct grammatical pronounciation, '75th' and '250th' will sound like: "seventy-fifth place" and "two-hundred-and-fiftieth place". It does not read them as "seven-five-thhh" and "two-five-oh-thhh".
However, NVDA does not read the same numbered values as nicely when the language is switched to French. There are two problems with numbers being read in French mode:
- While in French mode, numbers are still read in english and if a numbered value has 2 or more digits, each digit is read one-by-one, instead of as a single value. "75" is read as "seven-five" and "250" is read as "two-five-oh".
- Additionally, if the numbered value has a suffix, its not read correctly in combination to the numbers preceding it. Each character is read individually, instead of as one value, it sounds like: "seven-five-eee" and "two-five-oh-e".
Expected behavior:
NVDA should read numbers correctly in a French context as it does in an English one to be equally reader-friendly in both languages.
If the french equivalent of the values, "75th" and "250th", are written as: "75e" and "250e", they should be read to sound like: "soixante-quinzième" and "deux cent cinquantième", instead of "seven-five-eee" and "two-five-oh-eee".
System configuration
NVDA installed/portable/running from source:
NVDA installed.
NVDA version:
2019.2.1
Windows version:
Windows 10 Pro. Version 1903. OS build: 18362.592
Name and version of other software in use when reproducing the issue:
Adobe Reader for reading pdfs but the same issue exists when reading numbered content in the browser. For example, I got this text from the website of the French Government, "La 3e édition du sommet Choose France, ce 20 janvier 2020 à Versailles, vise notamment à promouvoir l’attractivité de la France et à encourager les investissements étrangers au cœur de nos territoires." This is from the link: Governement of France Site https://www.gouvernement.fr/choose-france-un-sommet-pour-conforter-l-attractivite-de-la-france
Other information about your system:
Other questions
Does the issue still occur after restarting your PC?
Have you tried any other versions of NVDA? If so, please report their behaviors.
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Steps to reproduce:
Open NVDA.
Set your language preference to English in the NVDA preferences menu. Open any text editor of your choosing and type a numbered value that has a suffix, such as: '75th' and '250th'. An example sentence could be: "Harry finished in 75th place and Sam finished in 250th place", then have the screen reader read that sentence.
Change your language preference to French in the NVDA preferences menu. And have the screen reader read that same sentence in french.
Actual behavior:
In english, you will notice the numbered values are read with correct grammatical pronounciation, '75th' and '250th' will sound like: "seventy-fifth place" and "two-hundred-and-fiftieth place". It does not read them as "seven-five-thhh" and "two-five-oh-thhh".
However, NVDA does not read the same numbered values as nicely when the language is switched to French. There are two problems with numbers being read in French mode:
While in French mode, numbers are still read in english and if a numbered value has 2 or more digits, each digit is read one-by-one, instead of as a single value. "75" is read as "seven-five" and "250" is read as "two-five-oh".
Additionally, if the numbered value has a suffix, its not read correctly in combination to the numbers preceding it. Each character is read individually, instead of as one value, it sounds like: "seven-five-eee" and "two-five-oh-e".
Expected behavior:
NVDA should read numbers correctly in a French context as it does in an English one to be equally reader-friendly in both languages.
If the french equivalent of the values, "75th" and "250th", are written as: "75e" and "250e", they should be read to sound like: "soixante-quinzième" and "deux cent cinquantième", instead of "seven-five-eee" and "two-five-oh-eee".
System configuration
NVDA installed/portable/running from source:
NVDA installed.
NVDA version:
2019.2.1
Windows version:
Windows 10 Pro. Version 1903. OS build: 18362.592
Name and version of other software in use when reproducing the issue:
Adobe Reader for reading pdfs but the same issue exists when reading numbered content in the browser. For example, I got this text from the website of the French Government, "La 3e édition du sommet Choose France, ce 20 janvier 2020 à Versailles, vise notamment à promouvoir l’attractivité de la France et à encourager les investissements étrangers au cœur de nos territoires." This is from the link: Governement of France Site
Other information about your system:
Other questions
Does the issue still occur after restarting your PC?
Have you tried any other versions of NVDA? If so, please report their behaviors.