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Windows toast messages speak while on the logon screen. #7626

Open LeonarddeR opened 7 years ago

LeonarddeR commented 7 years ago

Steps to reproduce:

  1. Press win+L to go to the lock screen
  2. Press esc to go to the logon screen
  3. Trigger a Windows 10 toast. On my system (HP Probook), a toast is triggered when a device is plugged into the head phone jack. Other toasts that can be fired include messages about actions required to connect to a wifi network.

Expected behavior:

NVDA should not announce the message.

Actual behavior:

NVDA speaks the incoming toast messages and you are unable to silence these messages. There are actually two instances of NVDA running one user instance, and one system instance. These two instances can be made to talk at the same time, which is quite confusing.

System configuration:

NVDA next-14463,7dca66c4, Windows 10 creators update

derekriemer commented 7 years ago

Agree that not being able to silence those is a bug, however, they do I think? visually show up.

feerrenrut commented 7 years ago

I don't consider it a bug, when I plug headphones into my system on the windows lock screen I see a notification. Why shouldn't NVDA make you aware of this information?

derekriemer commented 7 years ago

it's more that I can't tell NVDA to shut up after it starts going blah blah blah.

LeonarddeR commented 7 years ago

@feerrenrut: Do you also see this notification when you are at a logon prompt? Note that on the Windows 10 lock screen itself still talks with the user instance. The problem applies to toast notification spoken by the user instance when the system instance has foreground.

feerrenrut commented 7 years ago

Ah, I tested this again. The messages are shown visually on the lock screen, but not at the logon prompt. I understand what you mean about not being able to silence the messages as well, you can actually get NVDA talking twice which is pretty confusing to deal with. We should try to match the visual behaviour, speak the messages when on the lock screen, but not when on the logon prompt.

I'm going to try to clarify the title and description of this issue a little bit.

LeonarddeR commented 7 years ago

Sorry for being a bit vague here.

I still belief this can be generalised to silencing toast messages, not specifically when on the logon screen, but in general when sleep mode is on. Note that API messages also come through while sleep mode is on.

feerrenrut commented 7 years ago

Yes, thanks @leonardder. The technical details are appreciated. Just trying to keep the main description / title as user facing as possible. I have the (perhaps flawed) understanding that sleep mode was supposed to be per application? Either way, it does not change the fundamental request in this issue. It may mean that silencing the user instance of NVDA should not be done using sleep mode.

Adriani90 commented 1 year ago

It seems this occurs also for speech sent through controller client, not only for toast notificatoins. See also #2163.