Open Adriani90 opened 6 years ago
ehollig
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6 years ago Could this be accomplished with configuration profiles? For example, you could have one profile announce font size and font attributes while another profile had these disabled. Then, with implementation of #4209, you could press a keystroke to switch between the manual activated profiles. Leaning to a close in favor of #4209
Adriani90
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6 years ago Hello,
this would not solve the problem since you would have to define which font and which color should be activated for which profile. This is far to complicated for an usual user since you have to do lots of settings for each profile. There are to many keystrokes on the market at this point. Narator has hundreeds, jaws as well and now NVDA as well. I think the best way is to adjust the settings ring.
Or is it not possible from a programming perspective?
Best
Adriani
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Could this be accomplished with configuration profiles? For example, you could have one profile announce font size and font attributes while another profile had these disabled. Then, with implementation of #4209 https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/4209 , you could press a keystroke to switch between the manual activated profiles. Leaning to a close in favor of #4209 https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/4209
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Adriani90
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6 years ago Slightly edited
derekriemer
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6 years ago @Adriani90 commented on Dec 21, 2017, 6:43 AM MST:
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This will just add a ton of items to the ring, how will this objectively make this easier for the user?
Adriani90
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6 years ago It would then be user‘s decision how many items are confortable for certain tasks. Moreover, it would give more flexibility, i.e. in implementing #7744
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@Adriani90 commented on Dec 21, 2017, 6:43 AM MST:
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This will just add a ton of items to the ring, how will this objectively make this easier for the user?
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LeonarddeR
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5 years ago I have the feeling that adding settings to a ring might only complicate things even more. Don't you think that having a separate quick navigation layer for this kind of information could be much more effective?
Adriani90
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5 years ago @leonardder I really like the idea with an additional layer for quick navigation. I am really thinking about closing this one in favor of your idea. But I still think the settings ring is the best option at least for navigation by colors in MS Excel (i.e. as requested in #7744). Lot of users often deal with big tables which contain cells with different colors in Excel or even pdfs with revisions directly saved from MS Word. if you want to work very efficient with such files you have to navigate by certain colors (i.e. from red cell to red cell or from purple text to purple text). Do you have an alternative idea how to implement such a feature?
JulienCochuyt
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5 years ago Regarding easy navigation to any specific formatting, please see https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/9527#issuecomment-548137456
Regarding the settings ring, I'd like to propose the following improvements:
Eg. speech language selection with espeak offers so many choices that it is pretty tedious to switch between commonly used ones using the ring.
We could imagine changing rings with NVDA+control+pageUp/pageDown (desktop) and NVDA+control+shift+pageUp/pageDown (laptop)
Candidates could include (listed in order of priority via gut feeling):
I'm not sure Braille settings would make much sense, what do you think?
When a setting has a dedicated gesture, appending the announce made when moving through settings in a given ring would help newcomers discover them. When a setting category has a dedicated gesture, appending the announce made when moving through rings might also help.
Rather than adding a way to configure which settings are proposed in each of the rings listed in 2. we might consider adding a user ring for quick access at user's will.
What do you think?
Steps to reproduce:
Expected behavior: The user should have the flexibility to add or remove settings from the ring to optimize its way of productivity. In this case, document formating Settings should be added to the ring. When sellecting one Setting of this cathegory (i.e. Colors), Colors should be reported when navigating through the document.
Actual behavior: The ring of settings has not changed since many years although it is one of the most significant advantage of NVDA compared to other screen readers. In this case, users have to go to the document formating Settings and check or uncheck the coresponding Settings every time.
System configuration: NVDA version: all
NVDA Installed or portable: both
Other information:
Windows version: all
Name and version of other software in use when reproducing the issue: all
Other questions:
Does the issue still occur after restarting your PC? yes
Have you tried any other versions of NVDA? yes, all