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WWI-themed board game
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Do away with the road rule and simplify it. #175

Closed 317070 closed 7 years ago

317070 commented 7 years ago

On the experimental branch

317070 commented 7 years ago

I don't understand your comment?

Tantali commented 7 years ago

You can 2-move into and out of the sea. I've never been able to remember this. At the very least, your change now makes it symmetric, but I still don't like 2-moves involving sea regions, because of non-intuitiveness. Even though I like lots of mobility.

Tantali commented 7 years ago

@nymanjens don't forget this is experimental branch. Unless you see a good reason why this change is bad and doesn't deserve an experimental playtest, I would approve it.

This particular issue has been suggested many times before, so I think this makes perfect sense to add to experimental and actually experience whether the current 'road'-rule is worth its additional complexity.

nymanjens commented 7 years ago

I think this change is a small simplification but not a large one. Also, I don't like that you can use this starting from the sea. That said, I don't like any sea-specific exceptions to this rule, because it again complicates things.

Anyway, since it's the experimental branch, I guess that is an argument to be more lenient. On the other hand, I don't think we'll have a way of determining whether this is a good change after one or two test games (I think the arguments are going to be the same).

317070 commented 7 years ago

Well, it is simpler.

If after one or two games, we have no way of determining if there is a difference, then maybe there is no difference? When there is no difference, then maybe we should go for the simpler option?

Robin and I have already played like 15-20 games with this rule, and we still find it confusing.

nymanjens commented 7 years ago

If after one or two games, we have no way of determining if there is a difference, then maybe there is no difference?

This is not what I meant. There will likely be a small difference, but the same arguments will be made after as before.

nymanjens commented 7 years ago

I thought some more about this and changed my mind. I think this could be a better rule. I'm only worried about sea-land-land moves. Let's test-play it.

Tantali commented 7 years ago

2 persons worried about sea-land-land moves. Are we going to add an exception for that before test-play (no double-moves involving sea)? Or are we going to go for the current version?

317070 commented 7 years ago

TBH, if we are going to make an exception for the sea, I would opt to maybe stick to the current rule. So I would try this version first. Is that OK @Tantali ?

nymanjens commented 7 years ago

I'm with Jonas here