Closed avikdatta closed 8 years ago
Hi,
Please let me know if any further details are required for adding these ontology terms.
thanks Avik
Hi Avik,
Thank you for your term request, and sorry for the delay.
It seems you are basing your request on the schematic in Figure 3 of PMID:12086890. This figure is a representation of thymocyte development based presumably on multiple sources, though poorly referenced. None of the primary data for this figure is from this paper, and I suspect much of the understanding of thymocyte differentiation depicted in the figure is based on mouse data, although the paper itself is about human T cell acute lymphoblastic leukemia.
In looking at the first term you propose, I cannot use Figure 3 as evidence for this term, "CD3-negative, CD4-positive, CD8-positive, double positive thymocyte." Figure 3 shows a "CD3 -/low, CD4+, CD8+ early cortical thymocyte. A cell type cannot be both CD3-negative and CD3-low, which suggests that either more than one stage is being represented in the figure or that the authors are using CD3 -/low to indicate very low expression of CD3 in flow cytometry. This figure is not sufficient evidence that a CD3-negative (i.e. TCR negative) double positive thymocyte population exists. If you can find a primary source with evidence for a CD3-negative, double positive cell type, please let me know. The challenge is that CD3 is a component of the pre-TCR receptor containing a successfully recombined beta-chain and the invariant pre-TCR alpha chain, which is already present in the DN3/DN4 stage, and replaced by the alpha-beta TCR in the initial DP stage. So I am dubious that a CD3-negative DP-thymocyte actually exists.
Furthermore, the proposed cell type cannot be placed as a child of CL:0000809 ! double-positive, alpha-beta thymocyte. CL:0000809 ! double-positive, alpha-beta thymocyte is logically defined as having an 'alpha-beta T cell receptor complex', and 'alpha-beta T cell receptor complex' is a type of 'T cell receptor complex', and 'T cell receptor complex' is logically defined with has_part some 'CD3 episilon'. CD3 (CD3 epsilon) is used by immunologists as a proxy for the TCR, typically interpreted as the abTCR in most experimental contexts, so the CL:0000809 ! double-positive, alpha-beta thymocyte cell type necessarily bears CD3, as would any subtype.
In looking at your second term, CD3-positive, CD4-positive, CD8-positive, double positive thymocyte, in fact this term is already logically equivalent to its proposed parent term, CL:0000809 ! double-positive, alpha-beta thymocyte, per the logic in the previous paragraph, i.e. CL:0000809 already has_part CD3 epsilon, which a DL query in Protege verifies.
My solution for this second term is to add the broad synonym 'late cortical thymocyte' to CL:0000809. I will also add 'early cortical thymocyte' as a broad synonym to the CL terms for DN3 and DN4 (CL:0000807 and CL:0000808).
Sorry to be so negative, Alex
Synonyms 'early cortical thymocyte' and 'late cortical thymocyte' added as described above.
Dear Alex,
Thanks for assigning these two cell types to the correct ontology terms.
regards Avik
Label: CD3-negative, CD4-positive, CD8-positive, double positive thymocyte Synonyms: Early cortical thymocyte is_a: CL:0000809 ! double-positive, alpha-beta thymocyte Text definition: A double positive thymocyte with the phenotype CD3-negative, CD4-positive, CD8-positive Definition source: PMID: 12086890 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12086890)
Label: CD3-positive, CD4-positive, CD8-positive, double positive thymocyte Synonyms: Late cortical thymocyte is_a: CL:0000809 ! double-positive, alpha-beta thymocyte Text definition: A double positive thymocyte with the phenotype CD3-positive, CD4-positive, CD8-positive Definition source: PMID: 12086890 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12086890)