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new term:Puerile voice? #1951

Closed LOURGHI closed 7 years ago

drseb commented 7 years ago

synonym of "High pitched voice"?

BrunOrpha commented 7 years ago

This may be a recurrent problem for pubertal diseases and would either be a clinical modifier ? "Pre-pubertal_" can be applied to: voice, internal/external genitals for instance. I do not know if HPO choose the phenome at the moment of the clinical examination, but the hint would be that this phenome may be totally reversible after hormonal treatment's start, as opposed to others malformations syndromes with lifelong uterus hypoplasia or lifelong high pitched voice (like in Werner's syndrome).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23565415

pnrobinson commented 7 years ago

I am not sure if this is a translation issue, but for me the word puerile has the connotation of "silly/childish", and I do not think that is what is intended. @LOURGHI Please reopen this if you provide more detail? If not, then I would suggest that high-pitched voice would be the best term for annotation.

LOURGHI commented 7 years ago

I think high pitched voice does not describe having a child's voice at an adult age as the term implies. If we take the opposite of high pitched voice it is weak voice.on the other side the opposite of pueril voice is adult voice.Which is not at all the same...

BrunOrpha commented 7 years ago

ok, "puerile" voice seems inapproriate: how about"pre-pubertal voice" instead ? (implying evolutivity), otherwise how can we describe, in HPO terms, the following examples ? https://www-ncbi-nlm-nih-gov.gate2.inist.fr/pubmed/15475787 https://www-ncbi-nlm-nih-gov.gate2.inist.fr/pubmed/17459124