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HP:0040196 mild microcephaly should really be a subclass of HP:0000252 microcephaly, but it appears separately #9023

Open sansburyf opened 1 year ago

sansburyf commented 1 year ago

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HP:0040196 mild microcephaly should really be a subclass of HP:0000252 microcephaly, but it appears separately

Suggested revision and reasons Could you make it a subclass please? There is also scope for moderate, severe etc. This should ideally be a parallel subclass to primary and secondary so that it is possible to specify the size and whether it is primary or secondary in parallel. Could we also have a relative microcephaly to match relative macrocephaly? - not absolute microcephaly but ≥2 SD below other parameters for body stature / height?

pnrobinson commented 2 months ago

@sansburyf sorry for the long delay. Looking at this term retrospectively, it does not seem useful because there are no generally accepted ranges for mild, moderate, and severe microcephaly. I think it is better if we retire the term "Mild microcephaly". If it is necessary to record this, then the HPO Severity terms can be used: https://hpo.jax.org/browse/term/HP:0012824

sansburyf commented 2 months ago

Thank you. I am quite happy with that.

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