Closed Mr-Twave closed 3 years ago
Latest stockfish dev (tested at 3B nodes) gives depressed evals for such endgames (4x cp for 3P v 2P and ~100 cp for 4P v 3P). This seems to be due to latest Stephane's patch, and it is worth considering whether 50 move rule eval decay should be even more aggressive for endgame positions.
Closing this issue in favor of a different issue which has a promising idea that potentially could solve this one. #3449
This issue originates from analysis of a position appearing in TCEC. This issue is meant to be specific positions with opposing connected pawns, not positions with passed pawns.
Same Colored Bishops: https://lichess.org/analysis/8/5kp1/7p/b6P/5KP1/5P2/5B2/8_w_-_-_0_1 https://lichess.org/analysis/8/4kp2/2b3p1/6P1/4KP2/4P3/4B3/8_w_-_-_0_1 https://lichess.org/analysis/8/3kp3/1b3p2/5P2/3KP3/3P4/3B4/8_w_-_-_0_1 (all of these, lc0 thinks are drawn.)
Komodo Dragon at lower depths appears to have a lower evaluation than Stockfish... For whatever reason.
Compare to OCB: https://lichess.org/analysis/8/3kpB2/1b3p2/5P2/3KP3/3P4/8/8_w_-_-_0_1
Compare to 4 vs 3 pawns, a more complicated endgame: https://lichess.org/analysis/8/4kpp1/7p/b6P/5KP1/4PP2/5B2/8_w_-_-_0_1 1 node lc0 gives Kf5 with eval of +4.76, while stockfish takes a while for evaluations to climb from around +2 to +4 Same position, without a clear King infiltration advantage: https://lichess.org/analysis/8/4kpp1/7p/b6P/6P1/4PP2/5B2/7K_w_-_-_0_1 lc0 (without value repair) using deep search says Kg2 with an eval of +0.89, while stockfish climbs to +1.7. Based upon lc0 evaluations I'm guessing that one is much more drawish. lc0 J94-100 with value repair (trained off positions where searched evaluations differ from 1-node evaluations) says +0.35.
Solutions to this problem could involve: