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Acceleration versus velocity? #6

Open AlexKnauth opened 8 years ago

AlexKnauth commented 8 years ago

Right now, pressing the various move keys causes your orb to move while it is pressed. To be more true to zero-g, should it instead cause acceleration while it is pressed? Afterwards the orb would be continue moving with constant velocity as it would in zero-g.

AlexKnauth commented 8 years ago

I can imagine a whole bunch of neat tactics using inertia and stuff.

oflatt commented 8 years ago

That's a great idea, and I think I will implement it in different game modes. In the enders game gamemode, you would only be able to launch off if walls and then have no control over movement. Another gamemode could use that type of movement. Did you play space orbs? Some people say it does not work on their windows machine, and they get a gl error.

On Wed, Dec 2, 2015, 10:01 AM Alex Knauth notifications@github.com wrote:

Right now, pressing the various move keys causes your orb to move while it is pressed. To be more true to zero-g, should it instead cause acceleration while it is pressed? Afterwards the orb would be continue moving with constant velocity as it would in zero-g.

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AlexKnauth commented 8 years ago

Yes the mac version works great. P.S. I was thinking the keys would give impulses of acceleration, not continuous. That way it would feel almost exactly the same as the current version except that they would have to press one key to start moving in a direction and press the opposite key to stop.

Nosrac42 commented 8 years ago

Works very good on Windows, but the mouse movement is very weird on mine, but it's probably just my mouse On Dec 2, 2015 10:32 AM, "Alex Knauth" notifications@github.com wrote:

Yes the mac version works great. P.S. I was thinking the keys would give impulses of acceleration, not continuous. That way it would feel almost exactly the same as the current version except that they would have to press one key to start moving in a direction and press the opposite key to stop.

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oflatt commented 8 years ago

Interesting, OK. Thanks I'll fix the spelling error.

On Wed, Dec 2, 2015, 10:32 AM Alex Knauth notifications@github.com wrote:

Yes the mac version works great. P.S. I was thinking the keys would give impulses of acceleration, not continuous. That way it would feel almost exactly the same as the current version except that they would have to press one key to start moving in a direction and press the opposite key to stop.

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub https://github.com/oflatt/space-orbs/issues/6#issuecomment-161373819.

oflatt commented 8 years ago

The mouse movement is weird on yours because you got a version where I was testing out a weird mouse curve. Carson, the new version has a much better mouse control.

oflatt commented 8 years ago

I feel that to many gamers it would feel unnatural with that kind of impulses of acceleration idea. I know it would annoy me when I played the game. It is a cool idea, and would be great to use in a future gamemode.

AlexKnauth commented 8 years ago

For me, I get frustrated in the constant-velocity version when I start moving at a certain speed, and then I can't go any faster. Also, I get frustrated in constant-acceleration games because there's a bit of a lag between holding the key and moving fast.

But with the impulse thing, someone used to constant-velocity can do it very easily by just pressing opposite keys. I've done it before and it becomes natural very quickly. You can even decide to go twice as fast by doing the exact same thing, but with double presses.

oflatt commented 8 years ago

That does sound really cool, I think you have persuaded me. We should save this kind of movement so that we can go back, but I would love to try that.

AlexKnauth commented 8 years ago

Ok. I made an attempt to start on this here: https://github.com/AlexKnauth/space-orbs/tree/accel-sorta.

It doesn't really do what I want because the constant velocity is tied to the orb's dir and current-roll instead of the frame of reference of the room.

But it's pretty good for being only one key-stroke away from the current behavior.