Open pradau opened 4 years ago
hey @pradau I added some labels to this issue. Feel free to change that or add more.
Also let us know if there is an image for this project we can use for the website.
Hello @pradau I find this project very interesting and I am keen to work on it. I have a background in Mechatronics and Biomedical Engineering. I currently reside in Melbourne, Australia and hence I belong to the Asia Pacific Hub of brain hack. I was wondering if you would be keen to collaborate across hubs. Kindly let me know!
Hey @pradau
I created a mattermost channel for your project on mattermost.
https://mattermost.brainhack.org/brainhack/channels/hbmhack-multimod-nf
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Hey @pradau great project! Like @saampras I'm also in Australia (Asia Pacific hub) but would be keen to work on the project if working across hubs is possible. I'm new to coding but experienced in biofeedback & neurofeedback for PTSD and traumatic brain injury.
@pradau Can you provide an image for your project for the hackathon website? Thanks in advance! 😄
@pradau do you have a video channel for your project? Would you add that information to the mattermost channel, please? Thanks.
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Hi Saampras, Thanks for your message, and sorry for the delay in responding. I’ve been trying to determine a feasible project with consumer hardware.
I would be happy to have you on the team regardless of hub, and I expect the organizers will not mind.
I’ll provide some more info on the Mattermost channel and the GitHub page today.
Perry
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Just summarised all my comments (and their related material) from the Mattermost channel :)
If we break it down, and based on what is currently known, this is probably a project that will span years, so best we take it one step at a time, haha.
Things to note:
Agree with @Liz-git 's points, and adding my thoughts below: 1: Knowing who our target population is in terms of age is really crucial to the direction of the research, software and product development. This should be solidified based on existing literature for that disorder. 3: Identifying a target disorder or illness is a key first direction. The high rates of comorbidity as mentioned between ADHD, anxiety and depression may well mean that we have a product down the line that is suitable for multiple conditions or more complex cases, but getting it right first with one target is a priority. My feeling is that ADHD may be a better target initially than anxiety, due to the (?more) complicated aetiology of childhood anxiety. Tying 1 & 2 together: Does our target disorder differ in presentation at different ages? Is there a developmental course? Answering these will help us decide on a target age.
Systematic review:
Re: How widely used is NF in clinical populations? I think this will be really hard to determine in terms of actual clinical use vs. research use. Does research use and efficacy translate to clinical uptake? What kinds of practitioners are implementing NF? Re: How are NF devices currently measuring efficacy/are they efficacious? This will be a doozy to tease out! It seems (to me) like there are myriad ways to determine efficacy, some better than others. Symptom relief, cognitive improvement, signal change, fMRI, structural MRI etc. This article might be helpful: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5575615/ Getting a clear answer on this will also help us to go forward on how we should validate our product later down the track.
Other:
Here are some articles that might be useful, perhaps we can have a read and then regroup: Neurofeedback: Principles, appraisal, and outstanding issues https://doi.org/10.1111/ejn.14312 Assessing the Effectiveness of Neurofeedback Training in the Context of Clinical and Social Neuroscience https://doi.org/10.3390/brainsci7080095 Advancing the Rehabilitative and Therapeutic Potential of BCI and Noninvasive Sensing Systems https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-030-14323-7_12 Growing the evidence base for neurofeedback in clinical practice https://doi.org/10.1037/0000085-007 Designing a Successful Neurofeedback Training for Children with Autism Spectrum Disorder https://doi.org/10.1024/2235-0977/a000303
@Liz-git and @shellewell have covered most of the points that needed to be covered!! Some great references and links as well!! Just adding on to that, here are some points I thought about and wanted to share:
Some of the important challenges that came to light through the discussions in mattermost are as follows:
1) The possibility of stimulating cortical areas (prefrontal) as well as deeper regions of the brain (subcortical structures such as amygdala, thalamus, etc.) with good specificity. As @Liz-git pointed out, the mechanisms of stimulation should be better known and characterized in order to get sufficient funding approvals. Moreover, higher specificity would enable the targeting of more and wider variety of brain states.
On this note, I came across some interesting technology that may be able to address this very challenge. A recently developed tech called low frequency transcranial focused ultrasound neuromodulation (tFUS). Here are some links to go through:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-28320-1 = gives an idea and introduction to the concept of transcranial Focussed Ultrasound neuromodulation
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnhum.2020.00052/full = Recent paper on regulation of mood and FC
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1935861X19303389 = adverse effects review of tFUS
A brief summary of this technique: It uses ultrasound (acoustic energy) to target brain regions (including deep structures) and can modulate BOLD response, by modulating membrane gating kinetics. It creates neuronal level changes which in turn bring about changes in BOLD response. It is shown to be quite safe, although I have also put up a link to a review that evaluates its safety. It has many advantages stated. Some studies have shown successful stimulation of the amygdala and have observed behavioural effects.
One of the companies called brainbox produces the tech for this. It is FDA approved I believe. Here is the link to the brain box page:
I don't think there is a wearable version for humans yet. But the BRAIN initiative has acquired grants to develop a wearable tech for sheep to start with. Here is the link:
I am yet to go into the depths of tFUS and its mechanisms.
The challenge for us with regards to this new tech would be to develop a wearable for children that is safe and effective, from scratch. But provided its ample benefits and desirable characteristics, it would be the ideal candidate for the neurostim component of our device. Irrespective of whether we consider it, I believe this is worth mentioning in our review.
2) The possibility of making training easier for children by manipulating the mechanism of neurofeedback. Neurostim was considered here to augment the process of neurofeedback. My concern was about children developing strong dependencies on the stimulation because of its high passivity.
There is also another stimulation mechanism available to close the loop. Here is a link to one of the papers talking about training free externally regulated neurofeedback using EEG:
So in this, they provide visual stimulation to the user at specific alpha phases (frequency of stimulation is same as that of alpha waves). This stimulation in turn is regulated by the alpha wave from the user. So the user does not have to train their alpha waves since that is being done for them by the visual stimulation. It is different from neurostim because the stimulation is quite indirect. It is safer and the mechanism of stimulation can be more deterministic I suppose. Here, the design of toys, devices and IoT for integration would be quite meaningful. There is a great potential to make it engaging with minimal requirements for training.
This could be an alternative to neurostim, or could even be used along with it I suppose (in stages maybe).
Overall, our review could potentially include all the different techniques of neurofeedback and stimulation available out there, and then section out to talk about the ones that have converted into wearables in the market. This could help us review efficacy measures in different modalities, compare how existing wearables stick to delivering those measures and then propose standard measures that can be used to assess upcoming wearables.
Since there are many possible directions for the review, I think our next step should be to collate all the information posted here and decide a direction for the review.
I have also attached the starting point mindmap that I had created initially.
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Title: Multi-modality neurofeedback and biofeedback to treat children with ADHD or anxiety
Project lead: Perry Radau https://github.com/pradau
Timezone: Calgary MDT (UTC-6)
Description: Overview: Children with ADHD, PTSD or generalized anxiety benefit from neurofeedback from an EEG while performing a task (e.g. focusing, calming) to develop cognitive skills that can assist them to cope and perform better throughout life. Some problems with this training a) the tools need to be easy to access and setup (e.g. wearable); b) the feedback should be engaging and ideally involving multiple senses (e.g. visual, auditory, 3D, aromas); and c) the feedback should be based on both brain waves (EEG) and other indicators (e.g. body motion, heart rate, breathing rate) to provide richer self-understanding. Problem: Develop an app for use with a wearable neurofeedback system (e.g. Muse, Emotiv, OpenBCI) that provides richer environmental feedback and/or sensing to better serve the ADHD, PTSD or generalized anxiety pediatric populations. Further information:Neurofeedback uses operant learning/conditioning to train the brain to optimize its function; in essence it’s a form of “rebalancing” of brain function depending on the protocols used. A simple neurofeedback system utilizes SMR rhythm and alpha frequencies to focus and calm the mind. When the brain learns to mimic the frequencies and maintain those patterns it rewarded. Reward schedules are changed to increase the brains ability to hold the “new” normal/equilibrium, which over time teaches the brain to maintain a “new” or previous “normal” (equilibrium). Many people use it for all sorts of conditions as well as to increase performance. People who are out of touch with their feelings or body sensations (e.g. heart rate) would benefit from a non-invasive, self-directed way to become aware of and gain control of these functions. This could help them to realize the benefit of consistently and achieving their set goals. There is also a need to provide visual data to both the client and the clinician tracking changes and measuring success or problem areas.
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Chat channel: https://mattermost.brainhack.org/brainhack/channels/hbmhack-multimod-nf
Mattermost handle: hbmhack-multimod-nf
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