Validate that we don't break the TOS of Twitch

[olivierboucher]

I've had some comments on the reddit thread about this. We need to check what twitch tolerates.

[mkral]

Don't have time to review it now but here's the link:

http://www.twitch.tv/user/legal?page=api_terms_of_service

[mkral]

Section 13. Prohibitions.

...

access any portion of any Twitch audiovisual content by any means other than use of the Twitch Player;

...

[olivierboucher]

Well. That throws us off. I'll check if it would be possible to tweak something with webkit. I think that the webview component is not available for tvOS

[mkral]

I posted in the Twitch-API repo to ask if they are working on a tvOS solution or if they give written exceptions for tvOS apps. It does suck though.

[mkral]

I see lots of apps that use the same methods but I think the issue is you're getting the developers specific m3u8 and in doing so by-passing advertisement.

[mkral]

They need to open-source their player in the iOS app (assuming it's native and not web view)

[olivierboucher]

They have an app for iOS ! I wonder how much of a problem it is for them to port it and screw us

[mkral]

I don't doubt they will release an app for AppleTV but I also feel like they would encourage developers to make 3rd party apps

[olivierboucher]

I think the player can use the m3u8 file without any parsing

[mkral]

I don't think it screws us either

[mkral]

How are you getting the m3u8 playlist though? It's not apart of Twitch's API AFAIK. You're using the usher.twitch.tv endpoint and I'm not sure that's allowed in their ToS either.

[olivierboucher]

Yeah, I followed the http requests.. I found a python app that does the same. I'll check for the reference sec

[olivierboucher]

https://github.com/chrippa/livestreamer it's not really the same thing but I don't see them being sued by twitch and youtube.

[mkral]

I don't think they'll sue, but they will likely change the API's and infrastructure. Check out this reddit thread that the developer replied to from the first time they changed:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Twitch/comments/2p0zka/tardsplaya_stopped_working_for_everyone/cmscmpv

[olivierboucher]

I think that the best would be to comply and find a way to use their player. I'll investigate tonight

[mkral]

Agreed

[olivierboucher]

Should we create a slack channel to exchange?

[mkral]

yea probably

[waterskier2007]

I'm cool with that.

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[olivierboucher]

@waterskier2007 I'll need your email !