Climate

[olleharstedt]

Climate and weather.

Climate

• Draught (more sun than rain for multiple years)
• Ice-age (lower temperature for multiple years)

Season

Depends a lot on where on earth you are.

• Winter
• Spring
• Summer
• Autumn
• Rain period

Weather

Including temperature, day-night cycle, moon.

• Rain
• Sun
• Snow
• Storm

[kierajreed]

Climate

• Draught (more sun than rain for multiple years)
• Ice-age (lower temperature for multiple years)

My suggestion for this section is when someone starts a game you use RNG to determine the climate.

[kierajreed]

Seasons Depends a lot on where on earth you are.

• Winter
• Spring
• Summer
• Autumn
• Rain season
• Dry season

For this I suggest adding days. The way days would work is that 10 life minutes = 1 game day. This can be achieved by using setInterval(). Every day would increment a variable (lets say gameAge). Every 30 days would be 1 month* (this world is perfect). Every 3 months = 1 season (another variable, say gameSeason). Every 12 months (4 seasons, 360 days) would be 1 year (gameYears). Game age could be a statistic, as well as time played. Each season would have effects, but that's for later.

* Every month is a full moon, so wolves would have a higher chance to attack.

[kierajreed]

Weather Including temperature, day-night cycle, moon.

• Rain
• Sun
• Snow
• Storm

See above comment.

[olleharstedt]

OK, I need to explain the architecture a little bit. Do you know what events are, in a programming context? When something happens, one part of the code can send out a notification, and then other parts of the code can listen to it. It's also called the "observer pattern" or "publish-subscribe pattern".

So, there's one important event in civclicker2, called tick. It happens once each second, and a bunch of plugins listen to it, like the DayNightCycle plugin and Weather plugin.

[olleharstedt]

A lunar month is 28 days, by the way, so I think I'll use that number for the lunar cycle.

[olleharstedt]

Also, I would prefer that one year in game was approx 1 hour of real time, but that a complete day-night cycle is 1 minute. That leaves 60 day-night cycles for one year, so the calendar will be a bit skewed to make playing the game more interesting.

[olleharstedt]

So one lunar cycle might be 10 minutes, or 10 in-game days. That leaves two lunar cycles for each season, I guess (assuming a climate which have 4 seasons - that's very different in different regions).

[kierajreed]

I think your alternative timing is better, gameplay > realism.

[olleharstedt]

:+1: Great, then I will implement this system!

[kierajreed]

Hold on there mate! I have more things.

[kierajreed]

At the start of the game, pick a climate.

• Tropical
• Tundra
• Mountains
• Temperate
• Plains
• Savannah
• Forest
• Rainforest

They will all have different effects, and it's up to you how to determine them. Tropical, Savannah, Rainforest have 2 seasons.

[kierajreed]

• Tropical - higher food gathering chance
• Tundra - lower food gathering chance, colder, more wolves
• Mountains - boost to miners, colder
• Temperate - no changes
• Plains - higher food gathering chance, boost to farmers
• Savannah - higher food gathering chance, boost to farmers
• Forest - higher wood gathering chance, boost to woodcutters
• Rainforest - higher wood gathering chance, boost to woodcutters

[olleharstedt]

You should have a look at this data: https://github.com/olleharstedt/civ-clicker/blob/stoneage/docs/agriculture.md

[kierajreed]

very interesting

[kierajreed]

Most early civilizations were Temperate or Tropical

[kierajreed]

How about weather first? It's much simpler. Update: Made semi-accurate weather sim here.

[olleharstedt]

For sure, I just wanted to point out the connection between climate and civilization.

[kierajreed]

Anyways, is the weather sim I linked good?

[olleharstedt]

Hm, which link?

[kierajreed]

https://jsfiddle.net/3c6ppeoj/

[olleharstedt]

I'll have a look!

[olleharstedt]

Looks good, but not different from my own code. :) Here: https://github.com/olleharstedt/civ-clicker/blob/stoneage/scripts/plugins/Weather.js#L42

[olleharstedt]

I'll try to setup test pages where we can see the stats of different weather configs.

[kierajreed]

Thanks. Also, mine is just a proof of concept and only outputs a sequence of raining or not.

[olleharstedt]

Yeah, but you nailed the most important aspect: That the probability of rain is dependent on if last day was rainy. It's modeled using a Markov chain in weather generation algorithms.

[kierajreed]

One thing, can you add the libraries + modules to my test script? Also, if we're doing ages, my fork will have the Silicon Age.

[olleharstedt]

I thought it would be nice to have a "clean" page where we only test weather parameters, but we can have both, I guess. :)

Silicon age, like space age? I've thought about that and I think it's a good idea. Didn't flesh out any specific concepts yet, though.

[kierajreed]

Well, I added some things already, such as the resources Silicate and Silicon; a building, Apartment; and finally an upgrade to unlock it all. If you want I can add you as a contributor on my fork.

[kierajreed]

This issue is getting long...

[olleharstedt]

Ah, OK! Cool!

No need to add me as contributor, but of course it would be nice if we could merge the two ages eventually, either in your fork or mine.

[kierajreed]

This is very long, I'm splitting weather and (possibly) ages into separate issues. This issue is now for climate related things only.

[olleharstedt]

Some guys on reddit are actually looking for projects to help with: https://www.reddit.com/r/incremental_games/comments/6w4rao/any_projects_need_an_extra_coder/

Let's see if someone new tags along. :)

[kierajreed]

Nice! We could use some help. Also, this issue is for climate. I'll make a general discussion issue for normal talk.