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Tabulate City Council Voting Records #142

Open irvingjp opened 5 years ago

irvingjp commented 5 years ago

What problem are you trying to solve?

Current city council votes are only available to the public through publication of the council minutes. They are not easy to find and are not collected within the minutes in an orderly and predictable fashion that would lend itself to analysis or the casual perusal of the interested citizen. This makes it very difficult to review council action and nearly impossible to do long term analysis of council voting.

Who will benefit (directly and indirectly) from your project? The Austin community benefits most from this effort.

This should benefit everyone by dramatically increasing transparency on information critical to the democratic process. If votes are tabulated and published to the city website this will allow citizens to better understand their government and their elected officials.

What other resources/tools are currently serving the same need? How does your project set itself apart? We are looking for new ways to include civic participation in city efforts.

There are no known resources available that do not require manual review and transposition of voting data to analysis tools.

Where can we find any research/data available/articles? https://opengovpartnership.bloomfire.com

What help do you need now? Community support. Technical expertise to recommend efficient code, business process, and intuitive and accessable interface to city staff.

What are the next steps (validation, research, coding, design)? Gather community support and technical expertise. Present recommendations to Telecommunications and Technology Commission.

Create a regular cadence of in-person (or online?) opportunities for the public to contribute to the projects. Uncertain. TBD

How can we contact you outside of Github (list social media or places you're present)? irvingjp@gmail.com

Data project: Kellee Coleman, kellee.coleman@austintexas.gov

JoeyATX commented 5 years ago

Have you seen the statesman’s votetracker: http://apps.statesman.com/votetracker/entities/austin-city-council/

Joey Gidseg

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 8:21 PM irvingjp notifications@github.com wrote:

What problem are you trying to solve?

Current city council votes are only available to the public through publication of the council minutes. They are not easy to find and are not collected within the minutes in an orderly and predictable fashion that would lend itself to analysis or the casual perusal of the interested citizen. This makes it very difficult to review council action and nearly impossible to do long term analysis of council voting.

Who will benefit (directly and indirectly) from your project? The Austin community benefits most from this effort.

This should benefit everyone by dramatically increasing transparency on information critical to the democratic process. If votes are tabulated and published to the city website this will allow citizens to better understand their government and their elected officials.

What other resources/tools are currently serving the same need? How does your project set itself apart? We are looking for new ways to include civic participation in city efforts.

There are no known resources available that do not require manual review and transposition of voting data to analysis tools.

Where can we find any research/data available/articles? https://opengovpartnership.bloomfire.com

What help do you need now? Community support. Technical expertise to recommend efficient code, business process, and intuitive and accessable interface to city staff.

What are the next steps (validation, research, coding, design)? Gather community support and technical expertise. Present recommendations to Telecommunications and Technology Commission.

Create a regular cadence of in-person (or online?) opportunities for the public to contribute to the projects. Uncertain. TBD

How can we contact you outside of Github (list social media or places you're present)? irvingjp@gmail.com

Data project: Kellee Coleman, kellee.coleman@austintexas.gov

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irvingjp commented 5 years ago

I have and I have spoken to staff at the statesmen. Vote tracker is curated and not a complete record of council action. The reason being is that even the statesmen with its resources finds the current city record onerous to mine. Moreover this solution is undesirable because it relies on private interest to preform an essential public good.

mscarey commented 5 years ago

This blog post is from a while ago, but as far as I know it still reflects city council's political objection to publishing its vote data.

JoeyATX commented 5 years ago

I can understand their argument, but only slightly. I still think that accountability and transparency are the most important. Without that data, any picture you come up with will be created (or curated, like the statesman does apparently) by someone else, as opposed to an objective record of how they actually voted. I loved using the lobbyist tool when I was doing research previously. I hope we can figure something out, because it’s super important. I don’t have coding skills to offer but I’m pretty great with research if something like that is needed.

Let me know if I can help.

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This blog post https://www.open-austin.org/blog/2018/02/25/city-releases-some-requested-data-about-lobbyists-and-city-council is from a while ago, but as far as I know it still reflects city council's political objection to publishing its vote data.

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mscarey commented 5 years ago

Hi @irvingjp, do you want to pitch this project to the group at the Community Action Night tomorrow?

irvingjp commented 5 years ago

Sure. What time? I have a DSA meeting to put this in front of as well.

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irvingjp commented 5 years ago

Dallas actually has a decent idea of how to do this. Doesn't solve the amendment problem though.

https://www.dallasopendata.com/Government/Dallas-City-Council-Voting-Record/ts5d-gdq6