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OCDS for Public Private Partnerships (PPPs)
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Remove initiationType.csv #237

Closed jpmckinney closed 3 years ago

jpmckinney commented 3 years ago

Related: https://github.com/open-contracting/standard/issues/821

jpmckinney commented 3 years ago

cc @duncandewhurst

duncandewhurst commented 3 years ago

I'm happy with this, per https://github.com/open-contracting/standard/issues/821#issuecomment-734019550

duncandewhurst commented 3 years ago

@jpmckinney SIF SOURCE's data includes a boolean isPPP/Concession field. In the absence of setting initiationType to 'ppp', how would you recommend mapping this field?

jpmckinney commented 3 years ago

What are the semantics of that field and to what object would it relate?

duncandewhurst commented 3 years ago

The field is in the projects table in the SOURCE database, it hasn't been mapped to OCDS yet.

I only know the field name and type, but I'm assuming the semantics are:

Note that there is a 1:1 relationship between a project and a contracting process in SOURCE.

jpmckinney commented 3 years ago

At present, there is no field for this "type" information. We should open an issue on the standard to discuss how to disclose this information.

For example, the EU's standard procurement forms include separate sets of forms for utilities, design contests, concessions, transport, and "social and other specific services", but this type isn't expressed in data fields (and thus is not expressed in the OCDS mapping) – except indirectly via the use of particular fields in OCDS (or in the notice type/form name in the EU). Note that, in eForms (the EU's future forms), the same forms are used for different types, and a notice type field is used instead.

In other systems, this type information is disclosed indirectly through procurementMethodDetails, since some procedures are exclusively used for specific types.

For SOURCE, isPPP/Concession sounds like something a software developer came up with, so it isn't a great start for clear semantics. We should clarify what information it is trying to relate, so that we can model it correctly.

duncandewhurst commented 3 years ago

SIF clarified that the semantics are as expected:

Whether the project intended to be tendered as a PPP/Concession or as a traditional procurement