The .NET platform independent of Visual Studio

[ghuntley]

discussions

I think both .net as a platform and both C# and F# as languages only stand to benefit from making .net independent from Visual Studio and providing good open-source (not just free) console-first tooling available to the community. skleanthous

People will use VS if it's a good product. VS 2022 is great! It addresses real issues people have had for years! Granted, it took stuff going sidewise to get there, but still! Build a great IDE, and people will come. Hobbling dotnet doesn't help, it only pisses everyone off. Moves like removing Hot Reload not only hurt CLI or VSCode, but VS and VS Mac as well. It makes it harder for DevDiv to collaborate from the foundation on to the topic of the stack. - @drasticactions

recommended reading

• https://dusted.codes/can-we-trust-microsoft-with-open-source
• https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/22/22740701/microsoft-dotnet-hot-reload-removal-decision-open-source
• http://pastebin.com/RF6015kv

[lytico]

hi! ever heard of https://github.com/dotdevelop ? it was (is? will be?) an attempt to revive monodevelop.