Closed RonMcFarland closed 1 year ago
After review this is the feedback that wasn't entered into the Google doc.
We've made some changes in the doc and suggested more.
Here are some concerns that didn't make it into the doc.
We need consistency here. Options: Give them each a name (Alice and Bob are common in technical writing, and has the advantage of making pronouns easy: she and he, her and his, and you always know which one is which.) Make the leader "you" ("As a leader, you must encourage your community blah blah blah..."). Strive to refer to a single community member (it just makes sentences easier to read and write when you don't have to pluralize as much.) Speak about "the leader" and "the community member" consistently, without pronouns (they tend to make for confusing sentences, because we don't know who "he" is or who "they" is or are.) This is my least favourite option, because it's impersonal.
Seth is happy to do another review or edit, as needed, after the author updates based on that feedback.
On issue #1 above you mentioned, if Seth could work on the consistency of identifying leaders and members, that would be great. I fully understand the concern.
On issue, #2 above, you bring up a very good point. In the research of this book, they interviewed over 24,000 employees to get their employee engagement feelings. Only 2% fell in this bottom stage. We could delete my examples and only mention the stage only briefly as this does not refer to the greater society. Most importantly are the other stages where Open Organization Principles are most important to improve community productivity and openness.
Thanks, @AmyJuneH, for your thorough read and clear feedback for @RonMcFarland. Looks like this is moving ahead in a productive way.
I reviewed all of Seth's suggestions and commented "Good suggestion" after most of them. Also, I will leave this up to you, but there are sections regarding examples in Community Pattern #1 that can be deleted. I think, all this leader has to do is (1) know of people in that community that would like to move to a more productive and satisfying environment, and (2) know of someone who as been in that environment, left it for a more productive life and could act as a mentor. Here again, our leader is an introducer-in-chief only.
I will add these comments in GitHub as well.
Ron
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I reviewed all of Seth's suggestions in part 1 of the article and commented "Good suggestion" after most of them. Also, I will leave this up to you, but there are sections regarding examples in Community Pattern #1 that can be deleted. I think, all this leader has to do is (1) know of people in that community that would like to move to a more productive and satisfying environment, and (2) know of someone who as been in that environment, left it for a more productive life and could act as a mentor. Here again, our leader is an introducer-in-chief only.
Thanks - I put the comments on the review board. FYI Seth is out the week of Dec 5, so it may be longer than usual for the next review
Following your thoughts about Bob and Alice, just for fun, at the bottom of the 2-part article, I created a little story..."Introduction of how it works... The story of Bob…. " I don't know if we can use this, but I just wanted to put the material into a storyline for my own enjoyment.
Article one of two in this is ready for another review. For ease of flow, when the review starts on Article 2 can we have an additional card created?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FU13FApmWGEs_NuFC4yz2bVhpGak2BjAZP753p159rM/edit
I replied to Seth's two comments. Looks good to me to post.
Cheers,
Ron
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Article one of two in this is ready for another review. For ease of flow, when the review starts on Article 2 can we have an additional card created?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FU13FApmWGEs_NuFC4yz2bVhpGak2BjAZP753p159rM/edit
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Thanks. I'll get that on the card
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I replied to Seth's two comments. Looks good to me to post.
Cheers,
Ron
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Article one of two in this is ready for another review. For ease of flow, when the review starts on Article 2 can we have an additional card created?
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For ease of flow, when the review starts on Article 2 can we have an additional card created?
Done and done. Thanks, @AmyJuneH!
That has moved into copy editing.
I'll send a preview link for review before final publication
Thanks AmyJune,
I'm glad it's moving along.
Ron
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That has moved into copy editing.
I'll send a preview link for review before final publication
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I think this is into production. I reviewed it in the "Unpublished" review on opensource.com. Looks very good to me.
I had made the comments in card #153 by mistake.
Ron had some suggested edits and those were made. (part one article) Tentative publish date is Jan 19 and tentative URL will be https://opensource.com/article/23/1/community-leadership-introducer-chief
Our first article of 2023! Nicely done, all. Looking forward to it.
That's great. I'm going to enjoy seeing how this series plays out.
That's great. I'm going to enjoy seeing how this series plays out.
Ron
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I had made the comments in card #153 https://github.com/open-organization/editorial/issues/153 by mistake.
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published https://opensource.com/article/23/1/community-leadership-introducer-chief?sc_cid=7016000000127ECAAY
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AmyJune,
I'm sorry to say this, but could you change a few words?
Notice this sentence. "In the researcher's words, "my life is miserable" expresses the feelings of these members." Could you change it to..."The researchers reflect the feeling, "my life is miserable......
That is a phrase we decided on. They are not the researcher's.
Also, notice this sentence at the end of the article: "Introduce managers to individuals with skills they can partner with." I think this would be better. "Have the managers let their staff work directly with each other".
These are very small changes, but I think they help,
Ron
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Thanks Ron, I made those changes.
Thanks!
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Thanks Ron, I made those changes.
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Thanks, @AmyJuneH! Getting this onto the wire now.
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