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Can Not get Unix-V5 to run on PDP-11 SIMH 39 #168

Open kenmartin-unix opened 1 year ago

kenmartin-unix commented 1 year ago

Can Not get Unix-V5 to run on PDP-11 SIMH 39

After firing up PDP-11 ./pdp11 setup.ini then this occurs:

sim> run 100000

Simulation stopped, PC: 100012 (BR 100012) sim> run 0 Resetting all devices... This may not have been your intention. The GO and CONTINUE commands do not reset devices.

HALT instruction, PC: 000002 (HALT) sim>

sim> diskinfo system.dsk Container: /home/ken/SIMH/simh/BIN/pdp-11/system.dsk Simulator: PDP-11 DriveType: RK05 SectorSize: 512 SectorCount: 4872 TransferElementSize: 2 AccessFormat: SIMH CreationTime: Tue Jan 31 18:30:14 2023 DeviceName: RK HighwaterSector: 4872 Container Size: 2,494,464 bytes

Any help appreciated. Thanks

Ken

markpizz commented 1 year ago

Hi Ken,

When you created this issue you were provided with a template that asked you to provide some specific information and said:

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In your case, you should probably also describe where you got, or how you created the system.dsk image you are working with.

kenmartin-unix commented 1 year ago

sim> SHOW VERSION PDP-11 simulator V4.0-0 Current Simulator Framework Capabilities: 32b data 32b addresses Threaded Ethernet Packet transports:PCAP:TAP:VDE:NAT:UDP Idle/Throttling support is available Virtual Hard Disk (VHD) support RAW disk and CD/DVD ROM support Asynchronous I/O support (Lock free asynchronous event queue) Asynchronous Clock support FrontPanel API Version 12 Host Platform: Compiler: GCC 11.3.0 Simulator Compiled as C arch: x64 (Release Build) on Jan 31 2023 at 14:37:38 Build Tool: simh-makefile Memory Access: Little Endian Memory Pointer Size: 64 bits Large File (>2GB) support SDL Video support: No Video Support PCRE RegEx (Version 8.39 2016-06-14) support for EXPECT commands OS clock resolution: 1ms Time taken by msleep(1): 1ms Ethernet packet info: libpcap version 1.10.1 (with TPACKET_V3) OS: Linux ken-Inspiron-5755 5.15.0-58-generic #64-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 5 11:43:13 UTC 2023 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Processor Name: AMD A8-7410 APU with AMD Radeon R5 Graphics tar tool: tar (GNU tar) 1.34 curl tool: curl 7.81.0 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) libcurl/7.81.0 OpenSSL/3.0.2 zlib/1.2.11 brotli/1.0.9 zstd/1.4.8 libidn2/2.3.2 libpsl/0.21.0 (+libidn2/2.3.2) libssh/0.9.6/openssl/zlib nghttp2/1.43.0 librtmp/2.3 OpenLDAP/2.5.13 git commit id: 09899c18 git commit time: 2023-01-22T13:55:58-0800

Disk images from: http://simh.trailing-edge.com/software.html

Built simply using make on Ubuntu 22.04

Following Mini-UNIX.pdf

Created folder: ~/SIMH/simh/BIN/pdp-11 In that folder inbluded: AncientUnix.pdf pdp11 setup.ini unix_v5_rk.dsk doc.dsk pdp11.ini source.dsk unix_v7_rl.dsk munix.tap README.txt system.dsk

Launched as: ./pdp11 setup.in and got: ~/SIMH/simh/BIN/pdp-11$ ./pdp11 setup.ini

PDP-11 simulator V4.0-0 Current git commit id: 09899c18 Disabling XQ /home/ken/SIMH/simh/BIN/pdp-11/setup.ini-3> attach tm0 munix.tap %SIM-INFO: TM0: Tape Image 'munix.tap' scanned as SIMH format /home/ken/SIMH/simh/BIN/pdp-11/setup.ini-4> attach rk0 system.dsk %SIM-ERROR: RK device: Non-existent parameter - RK05 /home/ken/SIMH/simh/BIN/pdp-11/setup.ini-5> attach rk1 source.dsk %SIM-ERROR: RK device: Non-existent parameter - RK05 /home/ken/SIMH/simh/BIN/pdp-11/setup.ini-6> attach rk2 doc.dsk %SIM-ERROR: RK device: Non-existent parameter - RK05 sim> i

Ken

pkoning2 commented 1 year ago

I'm puzzled. There is a Unix V5 kit on trailing-edge but it doesn't contain the things you mentioned. And there is a Mini-Unix but that is described as relating to Unix V6. Could you describe precisely what image files you used, show the SIMH command used including any *.ini files referenced? I'd like to try to reproduce this but I don't have the information to do it.

kenmartin-unix commented 1 year ago

OK I must be really dumb!! What exactly do I need to do? This might be the easiest solution.

pkoning2 commented 1 year ago

I didn't mention any solution -- I meant to say that I don't know what files you are using, what SIMH commands and init files. With that information I could try to reproduce this and offer suggestions.

kenmartin-unix commented 1 year ago

Don't worry about it SIMH is history. I can't spend all my time trying to get this to run. It was intended as a fun project for me but the fun is over. Trying to follow the Mini-Unix.doc has some missing basic setup information. Like where is and what is required. You "make" it then your on your own. Thanks anyway.

pkoning2 commented 1 year ago

I'm sorry to hear you're giving up. I tried to help but without knowing what you're trying to do that isn't possible.

kenmartin-unix commented 1 year ago

My goal is simple enough. I think.

  1. get SIMH compiled
  2. setup needed items to run PDP-11 in appropriate folders.
  3. setup items to use UNIX-V7 in appropriate folders.
  4. execute necessary steps to have running PDP-11 with Unix-V5. Can you help me with these?
pkoning2 commented 1 year ago

I'd be happy to try. But I get very confused. You just mentioned both Unix V5 and V7 -- two different releases found on trailing-edge. And you mentioned mini-Unix which I didn't know of, but the document on trailing-edge says it's a Unix variant based on V6. One suggestion: get the current code and rebuild SIMH, that should cure the weird messages about attach problems with RK devices.

rms47 commented 1 year ago

V5 requires that the underlying system is an 11/45. SimH defaults to an 11/73.

You need:

sim> set cpu 11/45
sim> att -e rk unix_v5_rk.dsk
sim> boot
@unix
#
kenmartin-unix commented 1 year ago

Results:

sim> set cpu 11/45 sim> att -e rk unix_v5_rk.dsk %SIM-INFO: RK0: Amount of data in use in disk container 'unix_v5_rk.dsk' cannot be determined, skipping autosizing sim> boot

HALT instruction, PC: 000002 (HALT) sim> exit Goodbye

ken@ken-Inspiron-5755:~/SIMH/simh/BIN/pdp-11$ ls -l unix_v5_rk.dsk -rw-rw-r-- 1 ken ken 2494464 Sep 8 1998 unix_v5_rk.dsk

ken@ken-Inspiron-5755:~/SIMH/simh/BIN/pdp-11$

Ken

pkoning2 commented 1 year ago

Try "boot rk". I'm not sure why "boot" without argument is accepted, or what it means.

rms47 commented 1 year ago

Despite what the bug says, this is happening on V4, because no V3 release has that informational message. Still, even V4 should throw an error without a unit designator.

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Try "boot rk". I'm not sure why "boot" without argument is accepted, or what it means.

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kenmartin-unix commented 1 year ago

pkoning2,

OK. That worked: unix.ini contains:

set cpu 11/45 att -e rk unix_v5_rk.dsk boot rk

comments follow

@unix

login: login

--work--

exit

ctrl-E to exit

sim>exit

Goodbye

./pdp11 unix.ini

That works good. Thanks. When trying to use the v7 virtual disk it says the dsk is too big? Should unix_v7_rk.dsk be able to work?

Ken

pkoning2 commented 1 year ago

It probably expects 200 cylinders when the actual device size, as has been discussed elsewhere, is 203 cylinders. I just saw an example of that, I thought it was the V5 file. Anyway, see if it works if you simply ignore the message.