Open IngeborgGraabak opened 4 years ago
Thanks @IngeborgGraabak for raising this question.
If I understand you correctly, you want to report the marginal cost of supplying electricity (ie the point on the merit order cost curve where generation and demand are equal). This should (in principle) be identical to the short-term spot market price.
From the point of the energy supply chain, this would be at the secondary energy level - if it's not related to consumption, it shouldn't be final energy. So I would rather
Price|Secondary Energy|Electricity
to be related to the market pricePrice|Final Energy|Industry|Electricity
to specifically report the price at the consumption level for large-scale consumersPrice|Secondary Energy|Electricity|Marginal Cost
and explain how the the two concepts are distinct.I understand that there are two points of view:
One is the short-run marginal cost (SRMC), which is the output of a centralized system-wide model. It can be obtained as a dual variable or as a result of a postprocessing of the loading order. This is commonly used as a proxy of the spot market price. Only in market equilibirum models the market price is an explicit variable. For this ouput I suggest to use Marginal Cost|Secondary Energy|Electricity or Market Price|Secondary Energy|Electricity depending on the case
The other is the market price as an input parameter for a consumer model, where industrial, comercial and households may have a different market price. For this I suggest to use: Price|Final Energy|Industry|Electricity Price|Final Energy|Comercial|Electricity Price|Final Energy|Residential|Electricity
Thanks @arght - agree to add commercial and industrial electricity price variables to the already existing one for residential customers (see here) - would be nice if you could start a pull request for that?
Regarding the distinction between SRMC and spot market price, I would still like to wait for a response by @IngeborgGraabak whether the two concepts are really different - and if not, we use the existing variable (see here).
From my point of view, we can use the same variable for the SRMC and the spot market price. It is fine if we adapt the definition of Price|Secondary Energy|Electricity to be related to the market price.
Hi everyone, My point of view is that there exist different categories of ‘prices’ that are different:
I agree that we have three categories. FANSI calculates the marginal prices as you suggest. For me it is OK if we split into these three categories.
In the present version of the common data format, there are two variables for electricity prices: i) "Price|Secondary Energy|Electricity" with the explanation "electricity price at the secondary level, i.e. for large scale consumers (e.g. aluminum production). Prices should include the effect of carbon prices." ii) "Price|Final Energy|Residential|Electricity" with the explanation "Electricity price at the final level in the residential sector. Prices should include the effect of carbon prices"
FANSI provides electricity prices per hour and regions according to merit-order. The merit order prices are independent of type of consumption, e.g. "Residental", "Large consumers" etc. I suggest adding a new variable "Price|Final Energy|Merit order|Electricity" with the explanation "Electricity price at the final level calculated according to the merit order principle"