openMetadataInitiative / bids2openminds

A tool to generate openMINDS metadata from BIDS datasets
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Participants.tsv in BIDS: Recommended, Not Required #11

Closed Peyman-N closed 5 months ago

Peyman-N commented 5 months ago

We (myself and @spieschnik) were checking the bids-example. We encountered an issue while running bids2openminds on the asl003 dataset. Upon further investigation, it appears that the participants.tsv file is not required. As a temporary solution, I propose modifying the code to skip subject creation if the file is not present. Additionally, in the future, I suggest implementing a backup method based on directory patterns to extract this information.

lzehl commented 5 months ago

@Peyman-N can you please run asl003 through a BIDS validation to see/share the output of the validation please?

lzehl commented 5 months ago

Modality agnostic files (not all) according to the BIDS specifications (human readable one):

lzehl commented 5 months ago

We can discuss if we actually push people to a MUST participant.tsc/json when they want to convert to openMINDS.

Peyman-N commented 5 months ago

@Peyman-N can you please run asl003 through a BIDS validation to see/share the output of the validation please?

@lzehl Here is the results of BIDS validator. It seems that validator don't care about participants files.

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apdavison commented 5 months ago

We can discuss if we actually push people to a MUST participant.tsc/json when they want to convert to openMINDS.

I think we should allow conversion to openMINDS for such cases, but we may not accept such datasets in EBRAINS.

Peyman-N commented 5 months ago

We can discuss if we actually push people to a MUST participant.tsc/json when they want to convert to openMINDS.

I think with current structure of openMINDS and its emphasis on subject and subject states, we are implicitly guiding (nudging) them to do so.

lzehl commented 5 months ago

@apdavison @Peyman-N my point is rather: if this file is not given the converter will not provide any information on subjects (also not inferred from the file names). And the converter could provide a report/assessment for the user at the end with errors, strong suggestions, and optional additions.

lzehl commented 5 months ago

@lzehl Here is the results of BIDS validator. It seems that validator don't care about participants files.

@Peyman-N which fits what I extracted from the human readable BIDS specs. But since validation fails for this example dataset: this also means we should test all example datasets we use to know their behavior in a BIDS validator.