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improve OSM wiki OpenAddresses page #20

Closed sbma44 closed 6 years ago

sbma44 commented 6 years ago

Recent edits to the OSM wiki page for OpenAddresses cast our project in an unflattering light while also raising valid concerns about how we've communicated about the project. In the interest of encouraging more collaboration between OSM and OA, I'd like to suggest that we make the following edits to that page:

I'm happy to take this on. If folks find these changes agreeable we should probably consider updating the openaddresses.io site to address the concerns raised by these wiki edits.

iandees commented 6 years ago

I made this change before seeing this excellent list of things to change. Please feel free to expand on what I did, @sbma44.

nvkelso commented 6 years ago

Great suggestions, thanks for taking this on!

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sbma44 commented 6 years ago

Great. I'll give folks today to notice this ticket and opt out of being added to the wiki page, then will proceed with some edits.

iandees commented 6 years ago

A response to my change from Nakaner on my user talk page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Yellowbkpk&diff=next&oldid=967765

migurski commented 6 years ago

I’m happy to be added. Thanks for creating this issue, @sbma44.

NelsonMinar commented 6 years ago

Please feel free to add me as a contributor.

sergiyprotsiv commented 6 years ago

Sure, please add me too. Thanks!

nvkelso commented 6 years ago

Justin also contributes both to OSM and OA.

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Sure, please add me too. Thanks!

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sbma44 commented 6 years ago

edited OP to include him

justinelliotmeyers commented 6 years ago

Thanks for including me; I have talked to Simon in the past about Switzerland data for OA, and he is on the board of this: https://sosm.ch/ Super knowledgeable guy.

About addresses in Switzerland: https://sosm.ch/projects/swiss-open-addresses/

Let me know how I can help. Thanks

sbma44 commented 6 years ago

went ahead with it -- additional tweaks welcome, please feel free to reopen https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=OpenAddresses.io&type=revision&diff=1529970&oldid=1529729

nvkelso commented 6 years ago

I’m trying to add at the bottom, but saving always errors for me on their wiki:

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Closed #20 https://github.com/openaddresses/openaddresses-ops/issues/20.

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sbma44 commented 6 years ago

@nvkelso I had to log out & back in again to have mediawiki set my permissions properly & let me save (you need a confirmed email address, too)

nvkelso commented 6 years ago

Logging out and back in a few times solved it, omg.

trescube commented 6 years ago

CONTENTS OF WIKI PAGE:

{{warning|OpenAddresses.io data is not suitable for import to OpenStreetMap without additional review and adherence to the OSM [[Import/Guidelines|import guidelines]]. Please see below for more detail.}}

''See [[OpenAddresses]] for other address collection projects''

'''OpenAddresses.io,''' often referred to as simply "OpenAddresses", is "a global collection of address data sources, open and free to use" which was created by OSMers [[User:Yellowbkpk|Ian Dees]], [[User:Ingalls|Nick Ingalls]], Mike Migurski, [https://github.com/openaddresses/openaddresses/graphs/contributors and others]. Originally a spreadsheet of government address datasets maintained by Dees, it now has an aggregated download, an API, and a website at [http://openaddresses.io openaddresses.io]. The project's data store and collaboration center is [https://github.com/openaddresses its Github repository].

At least two other projects exist that share the name "OpenAddresses," but OpenAddresses.io is the largest by territory covered, source count (2,100+) and total addresses (470+ million).

=== Importing OpenAddresses Data To OpenStreetMap === OpenAddresses is a useful way to find openly licensed address datasets, some of which may be appropriate candidates for addition to OpenStreetMap. But a data source's presence within the OpenAddresses project should not be interpreted as proof than importing it to OpenStreetMap is appropriate. Each individual data source's original license must first be reviewed for compatibility with OpenStreetMap. If that review determines the licenses are compatible, the [[Import/Guidelines|OSM import guidelines]] must then be followed.

=== OpenAddresses Data, Licensing and Liability === OpenAddresses' metadata and list of sources is offered under a [https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/ CC0] license. The datasets indexed by OpenAddresses are licensed under many different terms by their publishers, from well-known Creative Commons licenses to idiosyncratic documents used nowhere else. OpenAddresses contributors make a good-faith effort to ensure that the data sources the project indexes are available under open licenses that fit within with broadly-defined "Freely Shareable" or "Share-Alike Required" categories. However, like OpenStreetMap, the OpenAddresses volunteers making these determinations are rarely trained lawyers. OpenAddresses does not offer indemnity or other guarantees to users of the data it indexes. Use of OpenAddresses data is at the user's own risk. A data source being accepted under OpenAddresses' sense of "open licensing" does not mean it is compatible with the [[Open Database License|ODbL]] used by OpenStreetMap.

=== Contributors and Supporters === Notable active contributors include Nathaniel V. Kelso, Nelson Minar, Stephen Hess, Sam Libby, Sergiy Protsiv and Justin Meyers. The project's primary Github repository has received contributions from over 120 individuals. Although many of its contributors are also active OpenStreetMap contributors, OpenAddresses.io is not associated with OpenStreetMap or the OpenStreetMap Foundation.

Usage of the project's data is not tracked, so a complete list of individuals and companies using OpenAddresses data does not exist. But the project is actively supported by staff from both [[Mapzen]] and [[Mapbox]]. Amazon Web Services donates storage and computing services to the project.

=== Talks and Presentations ===