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OpenAIRE Guidelines for CRIS Managers based on CERIF-XML
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Additional element in coar_publication_types.xsd e.g. COAR resource type c_1843 #128

Closed ACz-UniBi closed 2 years ago

ACz-UniBi commented 2 years ago

In some CRIS systems, we notice that the resourceType Other (http://purl.org/coar/resource_type/c_1843) is used in <oai_cerif:Publication> elements as <oai_cerif:Type xmlns:oai_cerif="https://www.openaire.eu/cerif-profile/vocab/COAR_Publication_Types"> , but has no .entry at https://openaire-guidelines-for-cris-managers.readthedocs.io/en/v1.1.1/cerif_xml_publication_entity.html#type .

This resource type isn't mentioned in the file _schemas/vocabularies/coar_publicationtypes.xsd . It's contained in the xsd files at schemas/vocabularies/

Should this also be available in _coar_publicationtypes.xsd and further schema-files?

jdvorak001 commented 2 years ago

Yes, "other" should be allowed in all of the three distilled schemes. I'll try to add it in the coar_vocab_v3 branch.

alubie commented 2 years ago

However, applying the resource type other should be discouraged by the guidelines - if a more specific resource type is appropriate.

jdvorak001 commented 2 years ago

(in a call with @ACz-UniBi) On a second look, this may not be necessary.

For publications, other periodical (http://purl.org/coar/resource_type/QX5C-AR31A resource type that is not included in existing terms under the top concept "Text") can serve the purpose. @ACz-UniBi to discuss the motivation with the requesting data source.

We definitely do not need other with Patents.

ACz-UniBi commented 2 years ago

Thank you @all for your feedback. The v1.1.2 will reflect the type "other periodical" term under text from COAR resourcetype vocabulary for literature publications. I'll close this issue.

olli-gold commented 2 years ago

Sorry, for jumping in a little late, but I don't think, that "other periodical" is an appropriate alternative to "Other" for all kinds of texts. I would prefer either to allow "Other" as a resource type for texts or would recommend to use the generic "text" type as an alternative to "Other".

ACz-UniBi commented 2 years ago

Dear @olli-gold , thank you very much for your additional note.

do you look for a default "fallback" for publications? In this case, I propose to use the generic ResourceType "text" for publications ( https://github.com/openaire/guidelines-cris-managers/blob/master/docs/cerif_xml_publication_entity.rst#type ) instead of the specific one under the hierarchy "text".

Best, Andreas

jdvorak001 commented 2 years ago

I would second @ACz-UniBi on this. If something is a Publication, it has to be Text (http://purl.org/coar/resource_type/c_18cf) or something more specific. If you can't find the more specific term for your case, then state Text.

The term "Other periodical" (http://purl.org/coar/resource_type/QX5C-AR31) in COAR Resource Types v.3.0 is confusing me a bit. Both its definition and its position in the hierarchy seem to imply "Other text" would perhaps be a more fitting label. But then, it's a question if you really need that inside your hierarchy. I would even suggest we discourage implementers from using it, by: (a) postponing its introduction in the CRIS Guidelines, or (b) introducing it now, but marking it deprecated.