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OpenAustralia Foundation
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It's really really time for some awesome OpenAustralia Foundation T shirts #339

Open mlandauer opened 2 years ago

mlandauer commented 2 years ago

We made a bunch in a large batch many years ago. They were lovely and made out of bamboo. They had a very simple design with "OpenAustralia Foundation" on them, the web address and a little slogan which was "Hack democracy".

I do still like the spirit of the "Hack democracy" phrase. It appeals to "old school" hacker types but in today's contexts is far too easily misunderstood to be "screw with the democratic process" which is definitely not what we are about.

So, I think we should do the following:

We can look at what organisations like EFA are doing.

This was an old (closed) issue dealing with similar stuff: https://github.com/openaustralia/oaf/issues/148 - there might be useful things in there

mlandauer commented 2 years ago

For reference here is what the EFA is doing on redbubble: https://www.redbubble.com/people/efau/shop

mlandauer commented 2 years ago

Here is one my very old and beaten up original t shirts for reference

Front: oaf-t-shirt-1

Back: oaf-t-shirt-2

katska commented 2 years ago

@matthew thank you for starting the convo.

I am not sure where to begin with this one.

QUESTIONS what is an appealing tshirt? How can we make it environmentally friendly and not just create more random merch? Also when we made them before they were for volunteer community mostly. We're not doing that so much now. So who are they for? (Can't be just 'everyone' ;) )

About donations - the rules are quite clear on this, so where there is value you can't pay for something and that be a donation, because there's an exchange. If someone choses to pay more for something on top then the extra can be a donation. So there's pricing + donation add on possible. Whether that's feasible way to attract or accept a donation in the payment gateway of redbubble IDK.

mlandauer commented 2 years ago

QUESTIONS what is an appealing tshirt?

I think we should start by designing something for ourselves - basically anyone that works for OAF or is a long term volunteer.

How can we make it environmentally friendly and not just create more random merch?

In terms of the shirt itself this is a nice to have but I don't think it's an absolute must. What I think is an absolute must is that we do "print on demand". That way we'll only ever make T-shirts that are going to get used. I think this is the best possible thing we could do to reduce waste.

Also when we made them before they were for volunteer community mostly. We're not doing that so much now. So who are they for? (Can't be just 'everyone' ;) )

Answered above. Start with us. Maybe other people will like it too? Maybe yes, maybe no.

About donations - the rules are quite clear on this, so where there is value you can't pay for something and that be a donation, because there's an exchange. If someone choses to pay more for something on top then the extra can be a donation. So there's pricing + donation add on possible. Whether that's feasible way to attract or accept a donation in the payment gateway of redbubble IDK.

Can't we just say that the price of the shirt is not a donation and is not tax deductible but that any profits go directly to fund the organisation? That way we can ignore all the complexity of the accounting for everyone. Frankly if someone wants to make a tax-deduction they can give us a "proper" donation. It doesn't seem that complicated to me. Or maybe I'm missing some detail.