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Working repository of the "9th International Workshop on Open Community approaches to Education, Research and Technology" *** towards "Open community approaches" CERTification processes *** Porto, Portugal, 8 October 2019, Co-located with FM 2019
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Submission 6 (Position/Regular) #6

Open opencert opened 5 years ago

opencert commented 5 years ago

Title: Exploiting Moodle for self-regulated learning promotion in active and collaborative learning settings

Abstract: This position paper is aimed at exploring how Moodle, an Open Source e-learning platform, can be used to promote self-regulated learning in active and collaborative learning settings. The point of this paper is that Moodle can support teachers and educators in designing active and collaborative learning settings within which learners can be guided and scaffolded in practicing and enhancing their self-regulating strategies. As Moodle is not natively embedding direct and explicit functionalities for promoting self-regulated learning, it becomes crucial to know the most appropriate mechanisms or tools that could be exploited as digital affordances for self-regulated learning promotion. This would add value to both the design and the process of learning, as it could help in specifying proper de-sign requirements. The added value would be perceivable both at the student and at the teacher level. OpenCERT_2019_paper_6.pdf

mbarbosautfpr commented 5 years ago

I will review this submission. Marco Barbosa

paddykrishnan commented 5 years ago

I can review this paper Paddy Krishnan

opencert commented 5 years ago

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leonorbarroca commented 5 years ago

I can review this paper Leonor Barroca

Hermioni commented 5 years ago

I can review this paper Lucia Rapanotti

leonorbarroca commented 5 years ago

Feedback to the authors: This is a paper in 2 parts; the first about self-regulated learning (SRL) and the second part about tools and in particular about Moodle plugins. The paper provides a useful description of these plugins Although the paper attempts to link the functionalities of the Moodle plugins to SRL it does not really add much to a description of the plugins within each of the categories of the classification of tools. This is a useful resource whether SRL or any other approach is adopted, but it does not really support educators in implementing SRL. A more useful support for SRL would have considered, for example, how Moodle plugins could support each of the phases of the SRL cyclic process. This would require a restructuring of the paper around the phases of the SRL cyclic process. .

Citation and referencing styles are inconsistent.

manganello commented 5 years ago

Dear Leonard,

thank you very much for the time you have dedicated to reviewing this manuscript and for the useful feedback provided. I have grasped your effort to provide me with constructive comments, aimed at improving the quality of the paper.

The suggestions you have offered are of course of great help, and I particularly appreciate your insightful comments to systematize the description of the plugins by mapping them to the phases of the SRL cyclic process. This is already partly done in the article, but probably not in an evident way. Moreover, it is well clarified in the "Study method" section that the plugins are classified according to this classification of tools proposed by those authors, rather than to the SRL processes.

As for the bibliography, I proceeded to make it consistent with Springer MathPhys (numeric, brackets) style guides.

Also, I would like to inform all reviewers that I will not be available for further discussion from August 2 to August 12 (annual leave).

Thank you very much.

BR, f.

twasserman commented 5 years ago

I found this paper to be almost impossible to read. First, it is aimed at readers who are deeply embedded in the education space, using specialized terminology and acronyms familiar only to those with extensive knowledge of the area. Second, the average sentence seems to be about 40 words long. Even if I had deep knowledge about the topic, it would be hard to understand sentences such as "The theoretical assumption of this paper is that promoting SRL strategies among learners within active and collaborative learning settings would help them towards managing their learning objectives and increasing control over their learning process, having this a positive relation with their motivation to learn as well as their learning performance." and "Kitsantas & Dabbagh (2012) have proposed the definition of Integrative Learning Technologies (ILT) to indicate a set - within which also LMS is included - of Web tools, software applications and mobile technologies that integrate technological and pedagogical features and (social) network affordances that can facilitate the design of online and distributed learning paths."

I find this paper to be unsuitable for a workshop like OpenCERT and suggest that the author submit it to a narrowly focused journal in the education space.

mbarbosautfpr commented 5 years ago

The paper reports about the usage of Moodle to promote SLR. The author points some Moodles’s plugins that can be used in some phases of the SLR methodology. But, the fact is that the paper lacks more concrete and robust results. It is not clear whether the paper reports ongoing research or not. I mean that because in my opinion is missing a section about application and results. The technological aspects of the work are very straightforward once the author only uses ready-made plugins, no new software is developed or proposed. On the other hand, considering the pedagogical aspect of the paper, It is really hard to evaluate due to the lack of application of the proposed approach in a realistic case study. Maybe the author should consider submitting the paper to a journal/conference specific about education.

manganello commented 5 years ago

I found this paper to be almost impossible to read. First, it is aimed at readers who are deeply embedded in the education space, using specialized terminology and acronyms familiar only to those with extensive knowledge of the area. Second, the average sentence seems to be about 40 words long. Even if I had deep knowledge about the topic, it would be hard to understand sentences such as "The theoretical assumption of this paper is that promoting SRL strategies among learners within active and collaborative learning settings would help them towards managing their learning objectives and increasing control over their learning process, having this a positive relation with their motivation to learn as well as their learning performance." and "Kitsantas & Dabbagh (2012) have proposed the definition of Integrative Learning Technologies (ILT) to indicate a set - within which also LMS is included - of Web tools, software applications and mobile technologies that integrate technological and pedagogical features and (social) network affordances that can facilitate the design of online and distributed learning paths."

I find this paper to be unsuitable for a workshop like OpenCERT and suggest that the author submit it to a narrowly focused journal in the education space.

@twasserman As far as the first point is concerned, I am sorry to hear you have problems reading discursive articles and with a more complex narrative than basic periphrasis. I will try to make the longer passages more readable for your convenience.

As far as the second point is concerned, please consider that education IS one of the general focus of the OPENcert 2019 workshop, as it is well stated in the cfp: https://easychair.org/cfp/opencert-2019. The fact that you are not familiar with the topic and with its jargon, it is out of the focus of the review.

manganello commented 5 years ago

The paper reports about the usage of Moodle to promote SLR. The author points some Moodles’s plugins that can be used in some phases of the SLR methodology. But, the fact is that the paper lacks more concrete and robust results. It is not clear whether the paper reports ongoing research or not. I mean that because in my opinion is missing a section about application and results. The technological aspects of the work are very straightforward once the author only uses ready-made plugins, no new software is developed or proposed. On the other hand, considering the pedagogical aspect of the paper, It is really hard to evaluate due to the lack of application of the proposed approach in a realistic case study. Maybe the author should consider submitting the paper to a journal/conference specific about education.

@mbarbosautfpr It is well stated that this is a position paper, not a research paper. In that sense, this paper aims to present opinions and it is aligned to what is stated in the cfp: Position paper --> "to present innovative, arguable ideas, opinions or frameworks which are likely to foster discussion at the workshop." A position paper does not need to rely on a concrete research/study, nor to present and discuss results. This is why you are not going to find a reference to "ongoing research" in this position paper. In my humble opinion, this paper, as a position paper, is not "missing a section about application and results".

As far as the second point, I am still quite certain that education is a topic covered by the cfp of the workshop.

twasserman commented 5 years ago

@manganello Insulting the reviewer is usually not a good strategy for changing a reviewer's mind. Since the workshop is not exclusively for people with deep knowledge about pedagogy, you should consider how someone without that expertise will be able to comprehend your position paper and any associated presentation that you might give. Maybe OpenCERT isn't the right forum for this work.

mbarbosautfpr commented 5 years ago

Dear @manganello, I apologize, your paper is, in fact, a position paper (as you present in the introduction) and I read it as a research paper. My point was that It would be nice to hear some experience when applying the methodology proposed. I say that because I use Moodle in my classes and I would like to try new experiences with my students. In such a context, I was expecting some words about the intended application, expected results, etc., even informally and partially. The paper presents an interesting and important subject, It is related to open learning environments (Moodle) and education. As a position paper, It has the potential to bring constructive discussions about the subject in the Opencert workshop. Two new plugins are under development and, maybe the audience could contribute with discussions about your work.

manganello commented 5 years ago

Dear @manganello, I apologize, your paper is, in fact, a position paper (as you present in the introduction) and I read it as a research paper. My point was that It would be nice to hear some experience when applying the methodology proposed. I say that because I use Moodle in my classes and I would like to try new experiences with my students. In such a context, I was expecting some words about the intended application, expected results, etc., even informally and partially. The paper presents an interesting and important subject, It is related to open learning environments (Moodle) and education. As a position paper, It has the potential to bring constructive discussions about the subject in the Opencert workshop. Two new plugins are under development and, maybe the audience could contribute with discussions about your work.

Dear @mbarbosautfpr,

thank you very much for having found the time to go back to my paper and for highlighting these aspects.

Surely my most genuine intention was to contribute to the discussion of this workshop bringing the point of view of the educational researcher dealing with learning technologies. I am very sorry that this attitude - implicitly embedded in the paper - was not originally appreciated.

Having a long experience of interdisciplinary research in the field of educational technologies (pedagogy and computer science), I am well aware of the problems that can arise when the two different research fields intersect each other. However, I am also very convinced of the enormous potential that can arise from collaboration and proactive discussion.

My intention - when I decided to submit the paper to Opencert - was to find in this workshop a valuable opportunity for this collaborative exchange and discussion, exactly as you have also pointed out. I am very sorry to have found, as a first impression, an attitude of strong resistance to this.

Finally, my two cents on this. Interdisciplinary research is complex, because the ground on which we move is not always safe for us, and exposes us more easily to criticism and failure, but it is an objective that should be pursued anyhow.

Thank you very much for your encouraging comment.

Best regards,

f.