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Canada electoral districts 2023 #364

Closed NikolasYo closed 8 months ago

NikolasYo commented 9 months ago

Adding the constituency changes according to the Canadian electoral commission (2023)

Also attaching a README file with sources for those changes

jpmckinney commented 9 months ago

@NikolasYo Can you review #327 first? Ideally we would merge that, and then make additional changes.

NikolasYo commented 9 months ago

We reviewed the previous request #327 with @zikowang. From our side, you can merge, and we will work on the new EDs afterwards. We will keep the same ID for the EDs that stay the same and add validFrom and validThrough dates.

jpmckinney commented 9 months ago

@NikolasYo Do you mean you would like this PR to be merged, but that you'll later make aliases for these to other OCDIDs (following the pattern in #327)?

zikowang commented 9 months ago

@jpmckinney we would wait for #327 to be merged and adjust this PR after accordingly.

zikowang commented 9 months ago

The 2013 file is updated (added validThrough). The aliases.csv is updated with 2023 aliases matching the 2013 aliases. The README updated with sources for the 2023 changes.

@evannjw @jpmckinney would be great if you could have a look into this approach and if I am missing something.

NikolasYo commented 9 months ago

The source mentioned https://lop.parl.ca/sites/ParlInfo/default/en_CA/ElectionsRidings/Ridings is not up to date as it contains 338 active constituencies instead of 343

After examining the changes in the electoral districts we came across multiple examples of electoral district names staying the same, despite changes in their borders. You can see it visually here https://redecoupage-redistribution-2022.ca/ebv2/index.html?locale=en-ca .

For example ED Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman kept the same name after the 2023 changes, but it’s border was modified, losing an area in the south against ED Winnipeg West and gaining an area in the north from ED Churchill—Keewatinook Aski. Such changes (Same ED name but different borders) are noticeable in many constituencies.

Our proposal would be to treat all the 2023 Electoral Districts as new, due to the numerous changes in the borders. Would you prefer to treat constituencies that have changed their borders as continuous solely based on the fact of them keeping the same name (Alias)?

jpmckinney commented 9 months ago

Our proposal would be to treat all the 2023 Electoral Districts as new, due to the numerous changes in the borders.

A division (political geography) is not the same as a boundary per OCDEP 2. So, borders can change without yielding a new division. This is important, because borders can change in very small ways that don't matter at all in terms of political geography (e.g. a resident would be quite surprised to learn that they live in a "new" district if all that changed was that a point in a polygon moved from one side of the street to the other).

Would you prefer to treat constituencies that have changed their borders as continuous solely based on the fact of them keeping the same name (Alias)?

Name doesn't matter at all in determining continuity over time.

To answer the question behind your question: Whether two divisions are different or the same is a political decision. In Canada, we treat the Library of Parliament as the authoritative source on what has been politically decided.

LOP has not yet caught up on recent changes. So, for now, we can just create the "-2023" OCDIDs and NOT add any aliases, until our source for aliases is available.

zikowang commented 9 months ago

@jpmckinney thanks for the clarification. I pushed a new commit removing the aliases for CA "-2023" ocd-ids.

zikowang commented 8 months ago

@jloutsenhizer @azuser could you please have a short look?