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Z-Wave Binding...Issues with Aeotec Z-Stick Gen 5 [Z-Wave] #1415

Closed bf8392 closed 4 years ago

bf8392 commented 4 years ago

Hi community =),

I've maid some tests with the Aeotec Z-Stick Gen5 and discovered some issues. Here are the main problems.

Current Bugs

  1. Issue with the usb-port on raspberrypi (not resolveable as this is problem from the aeotec z-stick -> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=245031
  2. Devices get automatically added on search to the z-wave controller (You don't need to add as thing, they get automatically added as soon as discovered to the controller, which is not very convenient, especially on the following problem ->
  3. Not able to delete z-wave devices from controller (option set as failed and delete from controller don't have effect)
  4. Learning mode does not work

To summarize: All advanced options don't seem to work on the aeotec z-stick gen5 with openhab 2.5.7 in docker (privileged) and pi. The controlling works perfect

Steps to Reproduce (for Bugs)

  1. Install openhab in docker on pi with hypriot os and traefik reverse proxy
  2. stick in usb-hub and aeotec z-stick (hub to resolve connection issue, see above)
  3. setup the z-stick as controller
  4. put a z-wave device in inclusion mode
  5. start discovering with the inbox on paper-ui
  6. see the issues

Sadly I have no Idea how to resolve this issues, but I can help testing, as much as possible! If you need logs or something else, I'll be here =)

For now I get around all issues, by plugging the z-stick to a windows pc, and delete the failed nodes with the silab software...which is very complicated...

Your Environment

Raspberrypi 4 B+ hypriot os 1.12.3 docker: 19.0.3 openhab-docker 2.5.7

wborn commented 4 years ago

Can you transfer this issue to the zwave repo @kaikreuzer?

kaikreuzer commented 4 years ago

Sure, done!

cdjackson commented 4 years ago

I would really suggest to discuss this issue on the forum. I don't think that there are necessarily binding issues here - for example, the fact that the RPi can't resolve the USB port is not something the binding can resolve I think?

If devices are automatically added to teh controller, then this is simply how ZWave works - the binding cannot control this as it is related to the way the protocol works - not the binding.

It can be difficult to remove failed devices - this is true. Again, I'd suggest to discuss this on the forum as there are a number of approaches to do this.

Learning mode does work - otherwise no-one would be able to add any devices.

Again - I'd strongly suggest to discuss the issues on the forum where you can get help from a large number of people - I don't think there are binding bugs?

bf8392 commented 4 years ago

Learning mode does work - otherwise no-one would be able to add any devices.

Sorry I meant learning from another suc controller, so OpenHab can be the secondary controller...(it's under advanced options)

I would really suggest to discuss this issue on the forum.

I can file a theme there if you want :-)

I would really suggest to discuss this issue on the forum. I don't think that there are necessarily binding issues here - for example, the fact that the RPi can't resolve the USB port is not something the binding can resolve I think?

It's really hard to say...the controlling and rules works more than perfect! I can provide any log you need to help resolve or diagnose :-). I haven't tested it on another machine yet, but the stick gets recognized probably by the pi.../tty/acm0 or something like shows up...

cdjackson commented 4 years ago

Sorry I meant learning from another suc controller

This should work, but it's not something that I would look to spend time on at the moment as it is really uncommon for this to be used and therefore isn't something I can justify spending time on.

It's really hard to say...the controlling and rules works more than perfect! I can provide any log you need to help resolve or diagnose :-). I haven't tested it on another machine yet, but the stick gets recognized probably by the pi.../tty/acm0 or something like shows up...

Many people use the binding with an RPi, so I'm sure that it works. There are problems with Pi USB ports and a hub is recommended. Again, discussing this on the forum is likely a lot more productive than discussing here as I don't use a Pi at all.

I can file a theme there if you want :-)

Yes please - there are a lot more people that will be able to help there. Thanks.

bf8392 commented 4 years ago

is really uncommon

Currently it's the only way to "cluster" multiple OpenHab instances for failover..at least in z-wave I think...but yes I also consider it rather uncommon at the moment...just for the record; to add the stick manually to another z-wave controller does not work for security-devices; (tested with Zipabox https://community.openhab.org/t/gradual-migration-from-zipabox-primary-and-secondary-controllers-etc/77525)

USB ports and a hub is recommended.

Yes you HAVE TO use a hub to make Z-Stick gen5 even working...also discrbed here and above https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=245031

Many people use the binding with an RPi, so I'm sure that it works

Yes all basic-functionallity works fine, the only problems are with advanced z-wave and inclusion-functions...(like forget a device.

Yes please - there are a lot more people that will be able to help there. Thanks.

Done here :-): https://community.openhab.org/t/z-wave-binding-issues-with-aeotec-z-stick-gen-5-z-wave-1415/105850

cdjackson commented 4 years ago

Currently it's the only way to "cluster" multiple OpenHab instances for failover..at least in z-wave I think..

Many devices will NOT work well with multiple controllers. A lot of devices will only support a single controller being added to the lifeline association group, so adding multiple controllers will typically result in a reduced system.

bf8392 commented 4 years ago

Many devices will NOT work well with multiple controllers.

Okay good to know cause I also made this experience here...-> reaction times become pretty low

By the way; compared to Zipabox the OpenHab Z-Wave Binding is not only 20 times faster when controlling devices, but also extremely reliable in measures of controlling by rules so far! I love the z-wave binding in OpenHab! Never seen faster reactiontimes. OpenHab is great in general -> best and most versatile smarthome-system Ive seen so far.

Great thanks @cdjackson for z-wave and all the other developers of OpenHab for all the effort and great work! :-)