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Provisional Allergies - Terminology edition #222

Closed davidmiller closed 10 years ago

davidmiller commented 10 years ago

Raised in discussion today - is "provisional" the correct terminology for an allergy that has not been confirmed?

Thoughts from all please - I have no opinions on this!

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wai2k commented 10 years ago

This is really one for nhshackday google group. Loads of knowledgable people there. Does Carl not know the answer.

On CDR on believe the term is 'suspected'

wai2k commented 10 years ago

http://www.hl7.org/implement/standards/fhir/allergyintolerance.html

Might be useful.

or if you want to use openEHR archetypes

http://www.openehr.org/ckm/ Search: 'Adverse Reaction'

On 30 April 2014 22:05, Wai Keong Wong wongwaikeong@gmail.com wrote:

This is really one for nhshackday google group. Loads of knowledgable people there. Does Carl not know the answer.

On CDR on believe the term is 'suspected'

On 30 Apr 2014, at 21:19, David Miller notifications@github.com wrote:

Raised in discussion today - is "provisional" the correct terminology for an allergy that has not been confirmed?

Thoughts from all please - I have no opinions on this!

Pings:

@7575colli https://github.com/7575colli @jonnylambournehttps://github.com/jonnylambourne @michaeledwardmarks https://github.com/michaeledwardmarks @GabPollhttps://github.com/GabPoll @ollyharvey https://github.com/ollyharvey @drcjarhttps://github.com/drcjar @sbhatt https://github.com/sbhatt @wai2k https://github.com/wai2k @

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jonnylambourne commented 10 years ago

agreed provisional not quite the right term (applies ok to 'condition', as the diagnosis is usually 'provisional pending investigation' - this is less often the case with allergy

terms could be: 'unconfirmed' or 'possible', reflecting uncertainty always useful to have some capacity to enter free text (as is the case on CDR) e.g. allergy = penicillin - 'unconfirmed' - mother reports rash in childhood

7575colli commented 10 years ago

I discussed with Preet who's preference, like mine is 'suspected'

wai2k commented 10 years ago

My take is that you should sync with the HL7 terms and/or CDR for future data interoperability purposes

On 7 May 2014, at 21:58, 7575colli notifications@github.com wrote:

I discussed with Preet who's preference, like mine is 'suspected'

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michaeledwardmarks commented 10 years ago

The HL7 terms are: suspected A suspected sensitivity to a substance. confirmed The sensitivity has been confirmed and is active. refuted The sensitivity has been shown to never have existed. resolved The sensitivity used to exist but no longer does.

Suggest we use these which would be in agreement with @7575colli and @wai2k

jonnylambourne commented 10 years ago

agreed


From: Michael Marks notifications@github.com To: openhealthcare/elcid elcid@noreply.github.com Cc: jonnylambourne jonnylambourne@yahoo.com Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2014 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [elcid] Provisional Allergies - Terminology edition (#222)

The HL7 terms are: suspected A suspected sensitivity to a substance. confirmed The sensitivity has been confirmed and is active. refuted The sensitivity has been shown to never have existed. resolved The sensitivity used to exist but no longer does. Suggest we use these which would be in agreement with @7575colli and @wai2k — Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub.

wai2k commented 10 years ago

Agreed!

On 8 May 2014 22:23, Michael Marks notifications@github.com wrote:

The HL7 terms are: suspected A suspected sensitivity to a substance. confirmed The sensitivity has been confirmed and is active. refuted The sensitivity has been shown to never have existed. resolved The sensitivity used to exist but no longer does.

Suggest we use these which would be in agreement with @7575collihttps://github.com/7575colliand @wai2k https://github.com/wai2k

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7575colli commented 10 years ago

Agreed

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On 8 May 2014, at 22:38, "jonnylambourne" notifications@github.com wrote:

agreed


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davidmiller commented 10 years ago

Changed on elcid-opat!