Closed Sakurann closed 1 month ago
In LSP POTENTIAL there are two designs for QES with Transaction data:
Are these flows applicable for both?
In LSP POTENTIAL there are two designs for QES with Transaction data:
the Wallet-centric model the QTSP-centric model
Are these flows applicable for both?
@paulbastian I would say so, because in both flows, presenting a credential from the wallet is used as a way to authenticate the user, right? do you have a hypothesis why this would not work for the wallet-centric model?
In LSP POTENTIAL there are two designs for QES with Transaction data:
the Wallet-centric model the QTSP-centric model
Are these flows applicable for both?
@paulbastian I would say so, because in both flows, presenting a credential from the wallet is used as a way to authenticate the user, right? do you have a hypothesis why this would not work for the wallet-centric model?
I would say the workings of the QTSP centric model does not align with the general model of OpenID4VP and what most readers here would assume. For example, it wouldn't allow the real relying party to request a credential and QES in the same request, as the actual request is from QTSP embedded into relying party website.
@Sakurann I would like to better understand the QTSP centric model for QES. I imagine a scenario where I am on a website (OpenID4VP Relying Party) and it wants me to sign a contract. How does an Authorization Request look like in this case, especially what is the client_id and request_uri?
This PR adds a significant feature that should be described in a use case appendix, similar to what OpenID4VCI does in my opinion.
I am looking at this from the perspective using this within eIDAS QES use case. Illustrating with this picture, there are two possible flows:
The QTSP centric flow and how transaction data is used is very clear to me.
The Wallet centric flow is less clear to me. As I imagine this, the communication between Wallet and QTSP look quite similar with the Wallet having a fixed relation with a particular QTSP. The question arises how a Verifier would send a request for a QES (either including the hash or the document itself) to the Wallet, marked with "?" in the diagrams. Questions:
@paulbastian regarding wallet-centric flow... I re-read LSP POTENTIAL UC5 QES diagrams and if I understand correctly, the difference between QTSP centric and Wallet centric is where the Signature Creation Application is located ouside or inside the EUDIW and whether the user chooses QTSP to use from the RP or from the Wallet. Which means that the part where QTSP authenticates the user using the wallet is the same between both flows, hence how transaction data is used is also the same. Am I missing something?
If my question wasn't clear enough: what do we intend to use for "?" in my figure for the wallet centric flow?
If my question wasn't clear enough: what do we intend to use for "?" in my figure for the wallet centric flow?
For ? the wallet should receive a request to share data/VC/... signed with one of the signature profiles requested or supported by the RP. So OID4VP would be a good fit. If wallet has a web interface, RP -> QTSP and RP-> (Web) Wallet could use the same protocol/interfaces.
I'm not sure the QTSP-specific API will be symmetric as above. At least today we see the following patterns
QTSP --> Wallet (1st flow) (today this is implemented in a closed setting where QTSPs are using push notifications) Wallet --> QTSP (2nd flow) (today oauth or other client-secret based approaches are used, again, having in mind a closed system)
If this needs to be opened up, QTSPs would need to align on the interfaces (I guess this is what CSC is trying to achieve?)
If my question wasn't clear enough: what do we intend to use for "?" in my figure for the wallet centric flow?
probably CSC specification etc. but I really don't think that's in scope for this PR and need to hold it up.
@paulbastian
I'm not objecting
Paul, did you mean to clear your 'requested changes' then? It's still showing currently.
@paulbastian
I'm not objecting
Paul, did you mean to clear your 'requested changes' then? It's still showing currently.
Yes, it seems there is no way to clear "request changes" other than to approve. But I didn't have enough time yet to read the PR in all its details to feel confident to approve.
At the EU Digital Wallet Consortium (EWC) we are about to start piloting a use case that includes using the wallet to confirm payment details (Dynamic Linking requirement from PSD2). Therefore we would be happy and explicitly support transaction_data to go into the next Implementer's Draft so that we can implement and test it and report our findings back to the community.
Looks good to me with the changes! I guess we should not merge this until the Query Language PR is merged so it doesn't break the github action (vp_query reference)?
4 approvals, discussed in multiple WG calls, open for over 4 months, all comments addressed - merging! Thank you everyone!
4 approvals, discussed in multiple WG calls, open for over 4 months, all comments addressed - merging! Thank you everyone!
Well, merging after making a trivial tweak so the spec compiles (removing the #vp_query reference) - we should probably add back the two VP query section links once query language is merged.
resolves #174 resolves #173 resolves #172