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Hi @danielskatz - how do I check off items on the checklist? I'm probably being really dumb, but how the heck do I do that? Thanks, Peter
Hi Daniel, I've actually made some progress on looking at the code (download the repo etc, having a good look at the code etc) - if I can access the checklist (or there are some commands to do it) then I can look like I'm actually doing something! Cheers Peter
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it says the invitation has expired?
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It must have been the one from the previous time expired between when I sent it and now - the new one should be available for 10-11 days, I think... Please try again
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π @skadio, @prw99r, @r-a-hoggarth - Can I again check in with you to see how things are going? I see a bunch of boxes checked, but some not checked. For each of you, are the unchecked boxes thing that you just haven't been able to check on yet, or are they items where there is work needed by the submitter, or discussion needed? If so, please say what these blocking issues are.
Otherwise, can you tell me when you think you will be done with your reviews?
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@r-a-hoggarth - it looks like you've checked off everything - can I take that to mean you are satisfied with the submission?
A quick update: I looked at the submissions but haven't completed the list yet, hoping to get back to it this weekend.
I have some time scheduled this week to check things out some more.
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A quick update: I looked at the submissions but haven't completed the list yet, hoping to get back to it this weekend.
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A quick update: I looked at the submissions but haven't completed the list yet, hoping to get back to it this weekend.
@skadio - any update? (I know weekends aren't great for things like this, but just checking...)
π @prw99r & @skadio - any updates from you? This review has been going about 2 months, and it would be really good to finish it soon.
I see a bunch of boxes checked, but some not checked. For each of you, are the unchecked boxes thing that you just haven't been able to check on yet, or are they items where there is work needed by the submitter, or discussion needed? If so, please say what these blocking issues are.
Otherwise, can you tell me when you think you will be done with your reviews?
I've raised a couple of issues with the authors - I hope I'm not being too picky, but trying to maintain a high standard. I'm not satisfied yet. Peter
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π @prw99r https://github.com/prw99r & @skadio https://github.com/skadio - any updates from you? This review has been going about 2 months, and it would be really good to finish it soon.
I see a bunch of boxes checked, but some not checked. For each of you, are the unchecked boxes thing that you just haven't been able to check on yet, or are they items where there is work needed by the submitter, or discussion needed? If so, please say what these blocking issues are.
Otherwise, can you tell me when you think you will be done with your reviews?
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Thanks @prw99r - if you can put https://github.com/openjournals/joss-reviews/issues/2646
in a comment in those issues, then they become visible here and I can see if they are open or closed, which helps me track how this review is going.
Daniel, I've had a think, and I don't think I can approve this for JOSS publication in its current form. I took another look at the criteria for publication and guidelines and I just dont think it satisfies the criteria laid down - it is an OK bit of coding, as far as it goes, but a major scholarly contribution - no.
I'm not happy about the statement of need, references to prior work, and also the level of contribution - I just don't see it.
Some useful packages - sure, but major contribution - nope.
It is not about raising specific issues either, that misses the point. it is the fundamental contribution being asserted - I am not convinced it is particularly interesting or useful other than to a very limited audience - hence my comments about the statement of need.
Hope that helps, Peter
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π @prw99r https://github.com/prw99r & @skadio https://github.com/skadio - any updates from you? This review has been going about 2 months, and it would be really good to finish it soon.
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Thanks @prw99r - I don't mean to minimize your concerns; I'm just trying to see where you have raised these issues and what the discussion has been on them.
Additionally, I wonder if @r-a-hoggarth has any thoughts on these issues.
@danielskatz I completed this round of my review. My checklist is updated accordingly and some comments are added below for our authors @jpsety
I hear and share some of the valid points raised by @prw99r. At the moment, I am a bit on the fence with this submission.
Overall, my understanding is that (please correct me if I am wrong) the library provides some I/O related capabilities to read/write circuit instances, an API to create/transform/interact with circuits, ability to do SAT queries.
Under the hood, the bulk of the work is done by the networkx
library to hold on to that structure and the pysat
library to answer SAT questions. The standardization/synthesis/analysis are nice contributions but I am not yet convinced these grant an acceptance at JOSS.
On the positive side, the package also ships with some circuit instances which others might find useful (assuming these are interesting instances for the community and are not available in standard formats elsewhere) and the library has the potential to "standardize" circuit operations to some extent. In that sense, one of the major contributions this library can have is "reproducibility" and sharing some common circuit formats --which can accelerate research.
That said, as the authors rightly noted in their submission as well, the library is geared toward benefit the originating lab in the first place. I am not in a good position to fairly judge the applicability/interest from the rest of the community for this tool and/or whether these are gaps are not at all supported by other existing work in this field.
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Comment about the codebase: while it seems okay overall but there are some dangling imports, typos, inconsistencies with PEP8 (or just linters in general). The source code can benefit from a quick clean up.
Codecov and coverage are listed as requirements, but I am not sure if there are necessary strict requirements. The setup.py does not list them either as install requirements so please consider simplifying the installation (or add them as required in setup.py)
Please explain what's fanin
and fanout
for the general reader. It is used in the Composition example without an explanation.
I couldn't find a contributor policy?
Have you considered load/save capabilities of Circuit objects? If researchers would like to share or persist the state of their circuit objects if saving/load to bytecode (say pickle files) conforms the integrity. This might be good to check/add.
@prw99r, I jsut realized that I might have mistakenly checked on/off some of the bullets from your checklist as I was scrolling up and down on the page. I hope I succeeded in retracted my edits but it might worth a quick look.
π @jpsety - Can I get your response to the comments from @prw99r & @skadio?
π @jpsety - Can I get your response to the comments from @prw99r & @skadio?
@skadio, Thanks for the feedback, I've addressed most of your comments, but have some further questions/comments.
Comment about the codebase: while it seems okay overall but there are some dangling imports, typos, inconsistencies with PEP8 (or just linters in general). The source code can benefit from a quick clean up.
I removed the unused imports/some variables I found. Ran the code through the Black linter as specified in our contribution policy. Fixed typos.
Codecov and coverage are listed as requirements, but I am not sure if there are necessary strict requirements. The setup.py does not list them either as install requirements so please consider simplifying the installation (or add them as required in setup.py)
Removed these from the requirements.txt, but this has broken our CI testing. Will find a fix.
Please explain what's fanin and fanout for the general reader. It is used in the Composition example without an explanation.
Added
I couldn't find a contributor policy?
We have guidelines on the readme of the repo.
Have you considered load/save capabilities of Circuit objects? If researchers would like to share or persist the state of their circuit objects if saving/load to bytecode (say pickle files) conforms the integrity. This might be good to check/add.
I opened an issue for testing the pickle interface. This is certainly a convenient addition. I believe it should work already, but I'll add some unit tests to be sure.
Under the hood, the bulk of the work is done by the networkx library to hold on to that structure and the pysat library to answer SAT questions
I think this characterization misses the large amount of work in converting between formats, adding interfaces to generate circuits, transforms that enable SAT calls, etc.
As per the JOSS guidelines:
Your software should be a significant contribution to the available open source software that either enables some new research challenges to be addressed or makes addressing research challenges significantly better (e.g., faster, easier, simpler).
This library makes working with Boolean circuits significantly easier. In only a few lines of code, a user can manipulate circuits in ways that otherwise would take several languages, tools, etc. See the comment here: comment
@prw99r, I appreciate your feedback. You bring up good points in what can be added. I don't currently have the bandwidth to further edit this paper. As I understand it, the idea of the paper is to give a concise summary of the purpose of the library and show examples of the functionality. I have done that using other accepted projects as examples. I am confident that the targeted users of this library will be able to use it as is.
π @prw99r & @skadio - what are your thoughts on @jpsety's responses?
@danielskatz
First of all, I would like to thank @jpsety for the updates and improvements. Most of these comments were not immediate blockers for me but I shared with you in a positive spirit to improve the work for the next/intended users beyond the lead developer. It's nice to see that some are incorporated and others can be added as well.
Without going into a discussion of assessing the exact amount of work involved here, the author highlights an important aspect that I also agree with: "the large amount of work in converting between formats, adding interfaces to generate circuits, transforms that enable SAT calls".
I consider this as a valuable contribution since it can help bring consistency across different research applications and for "reproducibility" purposes. In light of that, I don't see an immediate reason why should the research community be barred from learning about this tool and benefit from its functionality. Hence, I would be happy to accept this submission with minor edits from the list above, if any remaining.
Best, Serdar
Submitting author: @jpsety (Joseph Sweeney) Repository: https://github.com/circuitgraph/circuitgraph Version: v0.0.3 Editor: @danielskatz Reviewer: @skadio, @prw99r, @r-a-hoggarth Archive: 10.5281/zenodo.4302741
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