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2 years ago :wave: :wave: :wave: @joshwlambert, @alexskeels, @vboussange, this is the review thread for the paper. All of our communications will happen here from now on.
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vboussange
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2 years ago vboussange
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2 years ago Hi everyone 👋 I am posting here my comments for the first round of review.
DAISIEmainland is a package that allows to simulate the evolutionary history of an island community, bringing more realism to the DAISIE model by simulating the evolutionary history of the mainland community.
The package is well constructed, with a nice documentation, complete unit-tests, and community guidelines. However, I am not convinced of the usefulness of the package for the community, as it is presented right now. It seems that this package has been specifically designed to lead the investigation of the autor's work "The effect of mainland dynamics on data and parameter estimates in island biogeography", available as a preprint at https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.01.13.476210v2. While I do not question the relevance of this study, I do not see the point of publishing the corresponding code as a standalone package. Even if the authors would less emphasize on the capacity of DAISIEmainland to test the DAISIE inference performance, and rather put emphasis on the capacity of DAISIEmainland to obtain more realistic evolutionary history simulations, I think that it would benefit the user to integrate those changes in the main DAISIE package, as most of the syntax is the same. Overall, my opinion is that the code of DAISIEmainland could be a nice contribution to bring more functionalities to DAISIE, but it does not justify a standalone package.
remotes::install_github("rsetienne/DAISIE")Does unfortunately not work for me, I get an error with gfortran. The error is documented here but the fix did not work for me. It would be nice to indicate this potential fix to the user in the installation page.
Species that do not go extinct are give a spec_ex_t equal to the total time of the simulation.
The algorithm checks whether any changes have occured on the mainland since the last time step and if so, the system is updated and the returned to the time at which the mainland last changed.
Not clear
where r_j are the rates.
Breaking down the sentence leads to confusion, would be nice to rephrase this sentence.
$X = \lambda ...$
I think that you are here confusing about the random variable which serves as time steps and the probability density. It would probably make more sense to denote this random variable $\Delta t$
An island with a single endemic species which whose colonisation time is older than the island age so it is considered an island-age colonisation. The uncertainty in colonisation time is handled in an equivalent way to the non-endemic island-age colonisation.
An island with an recolonisation of the same mainland species after it has colonised and speciated (either via cladogenesis or anagenesis on the island). The colonists that are from the same ancestral mainland species but the island species is now endemic are show by ‘Colonist after anagenesis’ and ‘Colonist after cladogenesis.’
simualation algorithm
Would be nice to have a link to the documentation of the DAISIE package, because it seems a prerequisite to understand the goal of the DAISIEmainland package.
Why do you start the inference with initial parameter values which are exactly the same as those that were used to simulate the data?
I would have liked to have here some comments about the performance assessed. What do those numbers tell? How can we interpret it?
1) simulating the evolutionary history on island species,
Not sure what is meant by that.
the performance and robustness of this island biogeography inference model is unknown when its assumptions are violated under biologically realistic scenarios What is meant by "performance" here? "robustness"? I would simply delete this sentence.
A central assumption of the DAISIE likelihood model
Not sure what is a likelihood model. Overall, l36-37 could be better formulated.
The DAISIEmainland package has been applied to test the ... which provides a suite of phylogenetic likelihood inference models for island biogeography.
This should not belong to the statement of need. It rather describes the package, and I think that it would rather fit in the summary.
Bisaloo
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2 years ago Hi @alexskeels :wave:, do you expect to be able to complete your first round of review soon? It's okay if you need more time but having a tentative timeline would be helpful :relaxed:
alexskeels
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2 years ago alexskeels
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2 years ago Hello @Bisaloo, @joshwlambert, @vboussange. I am very sorry for my lateness - i've been away on holidays.
A few technical issues prevented a complete review of the package. I ran into the folllowing error in vignette 4 running the ML inference: "Error in DAISIE_ode_cs(initprobs, tvec, parsvec, atol, rtol, method, runmod = "daisie_runmod") : cpp_daisie_cs_runmod: too many steps"
and in vignettes 5 for summarising the results: DAISIEmainland::calc_num_spec doesn’t run “Error in stacs[[j]] : subscript out of bounds” DAISIEmainland::calc_num_col “Error in stacs[[j]] : subscript out of bounds”
I am running R version 4.1.2 on a windows machine if thats helpful at all. These should probably be addressed before assessing the checklist "Functionality" and "Performance".
One further general comment: The model simulates the mainland clade with an extinction rate and then speciation immediately follows extinction. How come the mainland pool has to remain a fixed size? Can it evolve under a BD model which might better represent flcutuating clade dyanmics on the mainland? I'm not asking for you to change anything of course, but I would be very interested to hear the justification (technical and biological) - perhaps a quick statement could be added to this end?
joshwlambert
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2 years ago Hi @Bisaloo , @alexskeels, & @vboussange.
Firstly, thank you @vboussange for the comments. I will use the specific comments to improve the package.
@alexskeels Apologies for not replying sooner. I am finishing my PhD at the moment and will be submitting the next couple of weeks, and so have been extremely busy. I'm afraid I do not think I'll be able to get to the technical issues that prevented you from completing a full review for the next few weeks.
@Bisaloo Given the comments that have already been received and the fact that I will not be able to invest the time required to address the comments over the coming weeks, is it best to remove this from consideration for publication? I am happy to wait but do not want to waste the time of the reviewers and editors.
Bisaloo
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2 years ago Thanks a lot @vboussange and @alexskeels for your reviews! :pray:
@joshwlambert, if you're unsure when you'll be able to work again on this project, then it's indeed a good idea to withdraw & resubmit later. It also looks like we're going to have a conflict of interest soon so it may be a good opportunity to find a new editor at the same time.
joshwlambert
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2 years ago @Bisaloo Thanks, I completely agree. I was going to mention the conflict of interest in the next week or so. Once again thank you to @vboussange and @alexskeels for your comments and apologies for not being able to respond to them in a timely fashion.
Bisaloo
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2 years ago @openjournals/joss-eics could you please withdraw this submission?
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2 years ago @editorialbot withdraw
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2 years ago Paper withdrawn.
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