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[REVIEW]: PyLogGrid: A Python package for fluid dynamics on logarithmic lattices #6439

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Submitting author: !--author-handle-->@hippalectryon-0<!--end-author-handle-- (Amaury Barral) Repository: https://github.com/hippalectryon-0/pyloggrid Branch with paper.md (empty if default branch): joss Version: 2.3.0 Editor: !--editor-->@philipcardiff<!--end-editor-- Reviewers: @slaizet, @marlonsmathias, @weiwangstfc Archive: Pending

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editorialbot commented 8 months ago

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✅ The paper includes a Statement of need section

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Reference check summary (note 'MISSING' DOIs are suggestions that need verification):

OK DOIs

- 10.1146/annurev.fluid.35.101101.161122 is OK
- 10.1103/PhysRevLett.77.5369 is OK
- 10.48550/arXiv.2006.00047 is OK
- 10.1017/jfm.2023.204 is OK
- 10.3390/atmos14111690 is OK

MISSING DOIs

- 10.1103/physreve.107.065106 may be a valid DOI for title: Reversible Navier-Stokes equation on logarithmic lattices
- 10.1016/j.jcp.2014.09.038 may be a valid DOI for title: Exponential time-differencing with embedded Runge–Kutta adaptive step control

INVALID DOIs

- https://doi.org/10.1016/0167-2789(85)90002-8 is INVALID because of 'https://doi.org/' prefix
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marlonsmathias commented 8 months ago

Review checklist for @marlonsmathias

Conflict of interest

Code of Conduct

General checks

Functionality

Documentation

Software paper

philipcardiff commented 8 months ago

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marlonsmathias commented 8 months ago

@philipcardiff I have found some issues in the installation process, but I'm unsure how to proceed. Do I report them in this issue or do I open a new issue?

philipcardiff commented 8 months ago

@philipcardiff I have found some issues in the installation process, but I'm unsure how to proceed. Do I report them in this issue or do I open a new issue?

Hi @marlonsmathias, please create a new issue in the main repository at https://github.com/hippalectryon-0/pyloggrid. Thanks.

slaizet commented 7 months ago

Review checklist for @slaizet

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General checks

Functionality

Documentation

Software paper

slaizet commented 7 months ago

Few comments about this submission:

Contribution and authorship: It seems than only hippalectryon-0 & logseq7546515162 have contributed to Github. It would be good to clarify the role of the other authors in the paper.

Data sharing & Reproducibility: It would be good to provide data for comparison for various examples. It will help with reproducibility.

Performance: Performance data are missing (more than just Windows versus Linux). This can be done here https://pyloggrid.readthedocs.io/en/latest/documentation/doc_performance.html or in the paper.

Example usage: More examples would be great.

Automated tests: Missing.

State of the field: Missing in the paper.

hippalectryon-0 commented 7 months ago

@philipcardiff I'm not sure what the procedure is in JOSS now that we have two reviews. Should I reply to the reviews directly here and make modification to check all the boxes ? Should I wait for a signal on your end ? Thanks !

philipcardiff commented 7 months ago

@philipcardiff I'm not sure what the procedure is in JOSS now that we have two reviews. Should I reply to the reviews directly here and make modification to check all the boxes ? Should I wait for a signal on your end ? Thanks !

Hi @hippalectryon-0, the JOSS review process is (should be) interactive. You iteratively address review comments as they come up; there is no need to wait for the reviewers to finish their reviews. So, please address or respond to any issues that have been raised here or in the issues section of your repository. If anything is unclear, feel free to ask the reviewer to clarify (or for my interpretation). Once both reviewers state that they are happy that everything is in order (and they have completed their checkbox list) then the review is complete.

philipcardiff commented 6 months ago

Hi @hippalectryon-0, let me know if any of the reviewers' comments are unclear to you.

hippalectryon-0 commented 6 months ago

Sorry for the delay, I've been more busy than expected - I'll answer the comments shortly !

hippalectryon-0 commented 5 months ago

@marlonsmathias Thanks for your review !

hippalectryon-0 commented 5 months ago

@slaizet Thanks for your review !

Regarding the points you have deemed lacking:

Best, A.B.

slaizet commented 5 months ago
  • "Contribution and authorship": could you indicate what is missing ? The paper has 5 authors, I cannot see the contributions from all the authors (for instance, it seems than only hippalectryon-0 & logseq7546515162 have contributed to Github).

  • "Performance": same question Performance data are missing (more than just Windows versus Linux). This can be done here https://pyloggrid.readthedocs.io/en/latest/documentation/doc_performance.html or in the paper.

  • "Example usage": could you indicate what is missing in the example that is provided in the documentation ? More than one example would be great.

  • "Automated tests": I believe there are many automated tests in https://github.com/hippalectryon-0/pyloggrid/tree/joss/log-grid/tests Are those tests automated? How often are they performed? Do they go through the different parts of the code?

  • "State of the field": Given that there are no other packages to make simulations on shell models other than the Matlab package by Campolina&Al that is mentioned in the doc, could you expand on what is missing ? Shell models are not my area of expertise but I would expect that simulations of shell models have been performed in the past (which seems to be the case by a quick look at Google Scholar) and it would be nice to briefly discuss how those simulations were performed and what your solver can provide in terms of capability.

hippalectryon-0 commented 4 months ago

@slaizet Thank you for your answer.

The paper has 5 authors, I cannot see the contributions from all the authors (for instance, it seems than only hippalectryon-0 & logseq7546515162 have contributed to Github).

Since the Github repository is a mirror of the private CEA Gitlab repository, indeed the direct contribution of each author is not clearly visible. As indicated in the original submission, "The authors contributed to this work in unequal proportions, with Amaury Barral taking the lead in the majority of the research, while the remaining authors made valuable but comparatively minor contributions."

If this is still not precise enough, let me know precisely what you would like to know.

Performance data are missing (more than just Windows versus Linux). This can be done here https://pyloggrid.readthedocs.io/en/latest/documentation/doc_performance.html or in the paper.

What kind of performance data do you feel is lacking precisely ? I believe that the page you mention explains all the existing tools to perform your own benchmark on your machine. Performance can greatly vary depending on CPU architecture, compiler version, etc.

More than one example would be great.

I agree with you on that point. The reason why I did not e.g. provide a Rayleigh-Bénard example is because such an example also requires a fait bit of mathematical explanation regarding for example why log-lattice equations are different from usual RB equations (which is explained in our research paper), and I felt that overall that would be too convoluted for the documentation. Let me know if you really feel that this is a blocking point for the acceptation of the paper.

Are those tests automated? How often are they performed? Do they go through the different parts of the code?

The tests are 100% automated (see e.g. https://github.com/hippalectryon-0/pyloggrid/blob/joss/log-grid/.gitlab-ci.yml). They're performed on each commit and merge request. The test coverage is 85%, with all major parts 100% covered.

Shell models are not my area of expertise but I would expect that simulations of shell models have been performed in the past (which seems to be the case by a quick look at Google Scholar) and it would be nice to briefly discuss how those simulations were performed and what your solver can provide in terms of capability.

Shell model simulations have indeed been performed in the past, but: 1) there's no widely used numerical library (that I know of) for shell models, as shell models are easy to re-implement from scratch for each paper 2) although log-lattices share some similarities with shell models, they're also fundamentally different. Therefore I can't think of a relevant package to compare this one to.

slaizet commented 4 months ago

Thank you for your reply.

I do not know if your answer regarding the contributions of the authors and having a single example of use of the software is satisfactory for the journal (@philipcardiff should be able to answer).

In terms of performance, it would be great to see some scalability plots, memory usage, etc on various hardware.

Finally, I still think that a small literature review on shell model simulations would be helpful for the readers and for potential users of your software.

philipcardiff commented 4 months ago

Thank you for your reply.

I do not know if your answer regarding the contributions of the authors and having a single example of use of the software is satisfactory for the journal (@philipcardiff should be able to answer).

In terms of performance, it would be great to see some scalability plots, memory usage, etc on various hardware.

Finally, I still think that a small literature review on shell model simulations would be helpful for the readers and for potential users of your software.

Regarding authorship, the JOSS documentation states (note that authoring a commit is not a requirement):

Purely financial (such as being named on an award) and organizational (such as general supervision of a research group) contributions are not considered sufficient for co-authorship of JOSS submissions, but active project direction and other forms of non-code contributions are. The authors themselves assume responsibility for deciding who should be credited with co-authorship, and co-authors must always agree to be listed. In addition, co-authors agree to be accountable for all aspects of the work, and to notify JOSS if any retraction or correction of mistakes are needed after publication.

@hippalectryon-0: based on your comments, I believe all five authors satisfy these requirements. Is this correct?

Regarding the number of example cases, the JOSS documentation states:

The authors should include examples of how to use the software (ideally to solve real-world analysis problems).

Although possibly ambiguous, note the use of the word "examples" (plural).

Also, the JOSS documentation states

Reviewers should rely on their expert understanding of their domain to judge whether the software is of broad interest (likely to be cited by other researchers) or more narrowly focused around the needs of an individual researcher or lab.

Based on these two points, it seems reasonable that more than one test case should be included in the documentation.

marlonsmathias commented 4 months ago

@marlonsmathias Thanks for your review !

  • I see you've left the "performance" checkbox unchecked. Could you indicate more precisely which part is lacking ?

Regarding the performance, it is now solved, I had left it unchecked because I could not find the data in the version of the documentation I was looking at (v:latest).

  • Likewise, what more in "Functionality documentation" would you have liked ?

For the functionality documentation, I am missing some information on the case setup and run in the tutorial. I would like to see more details on how to set up, for instance, the boundary conditions. One simple case for this is the lid-driven cavity, but others could also be used.

hippalectryon-0 commented 2 weeks ago

Apologies for the late answer, it is always difficult to find proper time to wrap up this paper. This was a software I developed for my PhD, but as I am now working somewhere else, I hardly have much time to work on this. Nevertheless, seeing as this has dragged on for quite some time, I would like to wrap up and publish this piece of software before the end of the year if possible.

Looking back at the comments provided above, the only missing point is an additional example / test case in the documentation. I will add a Homogeneous Rayleigh-Bénard case shortly.

To answer some questions asked above: @philipcardiff

@hippalectryon-0: based on your comments, I believe all five authors satisfy these requirements. Is this correct

This is correct.

@slaizet

In terms of performance, it would be great to see some scalability plots, memory usage, etc on various hardware.

Although I understand that more stats may be useful, I believe that the current stats at https://pyloggrid.readthedocs.io/en/joss/benchmark.html are already sufficient, and moreover can easily be ran by users on their own hardware.

hippalectryon-0 commented 2 weeks ago

@marlonsmathias

For the functionality documentation, I am missing some information on the case setup and run in the tutorial. I would like to see more details on how to set up, for instance, the boundary conditions.

I understand that this may seem nonintuitive for users of standard fluid simulation software, but in our case we do not prescribe any boundary conditions, as we are always in Fourier space, which implies periodic boundary conditions. This is explained (shortly) in https://pyloggrid.readthedocs.io/en/joss/tutorial/tutorial_first_simu.html.

hippalectryon-0 commented 1 week ago

@slaizet @marlonsmathias @philipcardiff I have added the new example in the docs here. Please let me know if this is now satisfactory, and if there's any further point preventing the end of the review.

slaizet commented 1 week ago

Hi all, I am happy to go ahead with the publication for this software. Cheers, Sylvain

marlonsmathias commented 1 week ago

Hello all,

I also agree with the publication as it is now. Thank you for the updates!

Best, Marlon

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