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- 10.1126/science.1183899 is OK
- 10.5281/ZENODO.11506617 is OK
- 10.1142/9789812701831_0006 is OK
- 10.1017/S0021859605005708 is OK
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Commit count by author:
81 MALOU THIBAULT
67 Simon Labarthe
1 Thibault Malou
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Hey @Shreyas911, @mrazomej (@slabarthe) this is the review thread for the paper. All of our communications will happen here from now on.
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@Nikoleta-v3,
I have a question about the review process. I am also tagging the author (@slabarthe) to get their input.
I am trying to understand the objectives of the software, but it is proving challenging. Although I acknowledge that this is not my field, I should have enough background in partial differential equations and inverse problems to follow what is being done. However, it seems to me that without reading the author's previous publication (which I'm happy to read if necessary), the documentation of the software and the JOSS
paper do not contain enough information to follow the point for the software package.
As the JOSS
guidelines indicate:
Documentation
There should be sufficient documentation for you, the reviewer, to understand the core functionality of the software under review. A high-level overview of this documentation should be included in a README file (or equivalent).
Furthermore, downloading the worked examples from an external Zenodo link rather than having the relevant information clearly explained in the documentation makes the entry barrier significantly larger. If this is not a problem with how JOSS
operates, I am happy to continue the review process as is. However, as a reviewer, I feel that I have to review the relevant publication and carefully read the previous paper since the documentation is not self-contained. I might be completely off with my criteria, and I am happy to change my expectations of what to expect in the documentation.
Hi @mrazomej
First of all, thank you very much for your time in improving our publication. This is also our first submission to JOSS and we are not sure of our interpretation of the requirements described in the JOSS guidelines.
The core functionality of the software is to solve an inverse problem related to the propagation of a chemical compound (namely pheromones) in an agricultural landscape. The objective is to get an early localization of the pheromone emitters, i.e. insect pests, in a crop protection context. The main innovation of the method and software we provide is to integrate prior biological knowledge into the inverse problem, by means of regularization terms. This high-level description is included in the README and the documentation.
A mathematical description of this inverse problem and of the biology-informed regularization terms can be found in the JOSS paper. At present, this description is not included in the documentation : we would be happy to include it if you find this information usefull to get a better understanding of the core functionalities.
Another entry point into the core functionalities in the documentation can be found in the src section of the documentation. Four packages can be found here : one for the direct problem, one for the inverse problem, one for the cli and one for plotting functions. If you think it is useful, these packages could be described in the first page of the documentation.
Furthermore, downloading the worked examples from an external Zenodo link rather than having the relevant information clearly explained in the documentation makes the entry barrier significantly larger.
We have chosen to completely separate the package containing the core computational tools and the repository containing the worked example where the different functionalities are presented. This choice was made because the worked example is related to another publication than this JOSS article, whereas the JOSS paper is dedicated to the core functionalities (computational tools to solve the direct and inverse problems). The worked example covers the main functionalities of the software. To speed up computations, the example involves some pre-computed results, which are also fully reproducible. This example allows to reproduce all the figures included in our previous publication. We felt that this worked example was too large to be included in the pherosensor package: this is the main reason why we provided it as a separate repository. Again, we would be happy to include this example in the documentation if you think it would be useful. @Nikoleta-v3 : we would be glad to have your inputs and advises that we will follow has accurately as we can.
Hello both :wave: (@slabarthe & @mrazomej),
Thank you for your patience. I also needed some time to review the submission. I agree with mrazomej that "the documentation of the software and the JOSS paper do not contain enough information to follow the point of the software package," and this is an issue.
A user should be able to visit the package's repository and documentation and find sufficient guidelines and information on the purpose and functionality of the project. In the current version of the repository, the ReadTheDocs documentation, or even in the paper, there is not a single line of example code to show the user how to use the package.
Regarding the examples folder, I believe it's okay that it is a separate thing because, in my understanding, these are files coded together for your previous publications, but they do not suffice as documentation.
Here: https://forgemia.inra.fr/pherosensor/companion-code-bi-da, in the README you have included some information on each of the scripts, but for a user to fully understand the usage of pherosensor
, they need to open the scripts and understand what functions/classes are coming from pherosensor
. Moreover, there is no real explanation of each line. If users are coming to these scripts after reading the publication it might not be an issue, but if someone is a new user of pherosensor
it creates a significant entry barrier.
Another entry point into the core functionalities in the documentation can be found in the src section.
It's great that this list of classes/functions exists! But even there, the documentation could be richer, there is no context as to when each function/class should be used, nor are there docstring examples.
Therefore, the package should be documented better. My recommendation is to create dedicated sections in the documentation for each of the functionalities of the project. There, you should explain the mathematics, followed by showing the code examples to run these functionalities, explaining the input arguments and the outputs. I know it can sound a bit overkill 😅 but it needs to be user-friendly if you are expecting people to use the software.
Here are a few examples of recent JOSS publications that I edited. Maybe they can give you a few ideas about how to structure your online documentation:
These are my personal recommendations. Maybe @mrazomej also has better ones.
Thank you @Nikoleta-v3 for these clear recommendations. We will tackle them as soon as possible and get back to you when it is done.
Thank you @slabarthe. Please feel free to ping me here if you have any questions 😄
@Shreyas911 did you have a chance to look over the submission? 😄
Hi @Nikoleta-v3, I plan to have a look before the start of August. Also, based on the comments above, it seems there is some documentation left to be completed/updated. I was wondering if I should hold on until that is complete to provide the best possible review or just go on and review in the next 10 days. Appreciate any advice. :)
Thank you!
Thank you for your response @Shreyas911! You are right; there will be quite a bit of re-writing of the documentation, so it might be beneficial for you and the authors to wait until that is done. This way, you can provide feedback on the new sections and hopefully test the full functionality of the package. Let's hold off until then (I will ping you then). Thank you! 😄
Hi @Nikoleta-v3 , @Shreyas911 , @mrazomej I wanted to let you know that we just finished a major update of the documentation, as suggested by Nikoleta-v3.
We hope these improvements meet your expectations. We will be happy to make further changes if you consider it necessary.
@slabarthe, the tutorial in this link has many equations that are not correctly rendered (see image attached). I tried using two browsers (Safari and Brave) and found the same problem in both. Could you fix that?
@slabarthe ,
The article has a typo in line 46. There is an unnecessary "$
" sign; see the attached image.
Also, out of curiosity, why for j
and \tau
you use _{obs}
, but for m
you use ^{obs}
?
Another question about the paper. Why is the \nabla
operator in line 56 presented as \nabla_s
? If j_{obs}
only depends on s
, this seems redundant.
Dear @mrazomej First of all, thank you for your comments and suggestions. Hereafter some answers:
@Nikoleta-v3, I noticed the code is hosted on INRIA servers. It seems far-fetched for COI, but I have collaborators at INRIA who are unrelated to this work.
Thank you very much for letting me know @Shreyas911 😄 I hadn't even noticed. It's okay, I don't see an issue, but again, thanks for letting me know. 🙏🏻 👍🏻
@slabarthe, very interesting work. Some comments:
Software paper State of the field: Do the authors describe how this software compares to other commonly-used packages?
Software paper A statement of need: Does the paper have a section titled 'Statement of need' that clearly states what problems the software is designed to solve, who the target audience is, and its relation to other work?
[ ] https://pherosensor-toolbox.readthedocs.io/en/latest/readme.html# "The target audiance is academic researcher interested in epidemiosurveillance for crops." has typos, it should probably be "The target audience is academic researchers interested in epidemiosurveillance for crops."
[ ] A number of typos or wording suggestions in the paper, mostly related to grammar, highlighted here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1003xYLjE9eL_y5PinY3ctXlMbqfXtDwkkK7NJA9Ywp8/edit?usp=sharing
Software paper Quality of writing: Is the paper well written (i.e., it does not require editing for structure, language, or writing quality)?
[ ] Noticed this in one of the tutorial cells although I personally didn't get the error when I re-ran the tutorial: https://pherosensor-toolbox.readthedocs.io/en/latest/tutorials/pheromone_propagation_model.html
[ ] Generic suggestion: A readthedocs badge could be added to the README of your git repo.
Hi @Shreyas911
Thank you very much for your careful review and your positive comments. I have update the paper and the repository according to your advice:
- A small section on the current state of the field might be needed and help provide further context.
I modified the statement of need to clearly separate a first sections that includes a short description of general features of state-of-the-art packages for data assimilation, which are generalist packages dedicated to the deployment of data assimilation in general contexts. By opposition, the pherosensor-toolbox is a context-specific application-oriented package for crop epidemiosurveillance.
- The target audience is explicitly mentioned in the documentation but not in the Statement of Need section of the paper.
I added the following sentence at the end of the Statement of Need section: "The target audience is then academic researchers interested in epidemiosurveillance for crops."
- https://pherosensor-toolbox.readthedocs.io/en/latest/readme.html# "The target audiance is academic researcher interested in epidemiosurveillance for crops." has typos, it should probably be "The target audience is academic researchers interested in epidemiosurveillance for crops."
The typos have been corrected.
- A number of typos or wording suggestions in the paper, mostly related to grammar, highlighted here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1003xYLjE9eL_y5PinY3ctXlMbqfXtDwkkK7NJA9Ywp8/edit?usp=sharing
All the suggestions have been included in the paper. Thank you very much again for this work.
- Noticed this in one of the tutorial cells although I personally didn't get the error when I re-ran the tutorial: https://pherosensor-toolbox.readthedocs.io/en/latest/tutorials/pheromone_propagation_model.html
Sorry for that : the version of the notebook pulled on the repository was not correctly executed. It has been corrected as you can check here : https://pherosensor-toolbox.readthedocs.io/en/latest/tutorials/pheromone_propagation_model.html
- Generic suggestion: A readthedocs badge could be added to the README of your git repo.
As suggested, I added a badge for the readthedocs documentation. I also added a badge for the version and the JOSS paper. See documentation and README.
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Thanks @slabarthe, this looks good, just a few more typos as shown here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CFswBTK_0jr1KNuynJLdH-y6EvMMbRJcdj_29UgnBJs/edit?usp=sharing
Once this is done, I am done with my review and I recommend that the paper be accepted.
Hi @Shreyas911 The typos have been corrected. Thank you very much for this swift and efficient review.
@mrazomej @Nikoleta-v3 : we will be happy to further improve our submission if needed.
Let's wait to see what mrazomej says, and then I'll have one last quick look over the submission 😄 👍🏻
I sincerely apologize for the enormous delay. I was traveling with limited internet access. I completed my checklist, and I approved the submission.
Thanks a lot @mrazomej for your review and for the great improvements you triggered, together with @Nikoleta-v3 and Shreyas911.
Thank you all for your time and efforts! @slabarthe I will take one final look in the next few days, and then we can move forward with the submission!
@slabarthe, thank you very much for your patience! I had some time to review the submission, and I just have a few minor comments at this point.
Paper
(-) Line 32: should it be epidemio surveillance
? A space is missing.
(-) Could you please ;ower case the reference: PDAF - THE PARALLEL DATA ASSIMILATION FRAMEWORK: EXPERIENCES WITH KALMAN FILTERING
to PDAF-the parallel data assimilation framework: experiences with Kalman filtering
.
Documentation (-) Here: https://pherosensor-toolbox.readthedocs.io/en/latest/readme.html in the section documentation there is a broken hyperlink.
At this point could you also please:
I can then move forward with accepting the submission 😄
Hi @Nikoleta-v3 Thank you so much for all this reviewing process.
I fixed the issues you pointed at in the paper and documentation.
I made a new tagged version of the code (version v0.1.2 ).
I archived the reviewed software in Zenodo.
I checked the metadata. The title matches the paper title, so as the author list.
The DOI of the archive version is https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.13834137
Hi @Nikoleta-v3 , @mrazomej , @Shreyas911
I just wanted to thank you again very much for this review process and for the valuable advice you provided. It was my first experience with JOSS and I really enjoyed the interactive reviewing procedure that let the authors understand the expectations and the needs for improvements.
v0.0.8
sorry that was a typo 😆
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Reference check summary (note 'MISSING' DOIs are suggestions that need verification):
✅ OK DOIs
- 10.1126/science.1183899 is OK
- 10.5281/ZENODO.11506617 is OK
- 10.1142/9789812701831_0006 is OK
- 10.1017/S0021859605005708 is OK
- 10.21105/joss.05150 is OK
- 10.1016/j.envsoft.2014.02.008 is OK
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Reference check summary (note 'MISSING' DOIs are suggestions that need verification):
✅ OK DOIs
- 10.1126/science.1183899 is OK
- 10.5281/ZENODO.11506617 is OK
- 10.1142/9789812701831_0006 is OK
- 10.1017/S0021859605005708 is OK
- 10.21105/joss.05150 is OK
- 10.1016/j.envsoft.2014.02.008 is OK
🟡 SKIP DOIs
- None
❌ MISSING DOIs
- None
❌ INVALID DOIs
- None
Submitting author: !--author-handle-->@slabarthe<!--end-author-handle-- (Simon Labarthe) Repository: https://forgemia.inra.fr/pherosensor/pherosensor-toolbox Branch with paper.md (empty if default branch): Version: v0.1.2 Editor: !--editor-->@Nikoleta-v3<!--end-editor-- Reviewers: @Shreyas911, @mrazomej Archive: 10.5281/zenodo.13834137
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