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Proposal for a dedicated sustainability collab space #1357

Closed UlisesGascon closed 1 month ago

UlisesGascon commented 2 months ago

It seems like there's a growing interest across various projects in exploring sustainable practices ( https://github.com/expressjs/discussions/issues/228, https://github.com/nodejs/next-10/issues/273). Additionally, the OpenJS Foundation has made significant strides with the new Ecosystem Sustainability Program (ESP) (https://github.com/openjs-foundation/cross-project-council/issues/1277).

Given these developments, I propose we create a dedicated space where we can collectively share our experiences and ideas concerning sustainability. This could greatly enhance our approach to securing long-term viability and support for all OpenJS projects.


Our Goals

Desired Outcomes


I look forward to your thoughts and feedback on this proposal!

voxpelli commented 2 months ago

If its only to focus on the financial / funding aspects, then I think it should be a "funding collab space"

Sustainable maintenance involves much more than funding – it involves mental and social well being, regrowth, contributions, ecosystem support, tech and issue debt etc – funding is a means to an end when it comes to sustainable maintenance and a collab space that focuses on it should brand itself with "funding" rather than claiming the entire sustainability space.

voxpelli commented 2 months ago

Relatedly, I'm currently drafting on a Collective Funds Guidelines with initial targets being mocha(OpenJSF-project) and neostandard (not an OpenJSF-project) that other has also shown interest in – would love to collab on it when the first draft is complete πŸ‘

ljharb commented 2 months ago

In capitalism, virtually all of those things are gated by funding - i think sustainability is the right term (so the goal remains front and center) and funding is the right focus (as the primary means of achieving it).

UlisesGascon commented 2 months ago

@voxpelli you made a great point!

Actually, while the current trigger is related to funding aspects, I think we have a lot of room for mental and social well being, regrowth, contributions, ecosystem support, tech and issue debt etc :+1:. I will rewrite the goals and Desired Outcomes to include them.

tobie commented 2 months ago

Discussed in today's CPC call. General agreement to move forward with this. Next steps would be to follow the process described here: https://github.com/openjs-foundation/cross-project-council/tree/main/collaboration-spaces

voxpelli commented 2 months ago

Relatedly, I'm currently drafting on a Collective Funds Guidelines with initial targets being mocha(OpenJSF-project) and neostandard (not an OpenJSF-project) that other has also shown interest in – would love to collab on it when the first draft is complete πŸ‘

Following up on this, first draft is published over at: https://github.com/collective-funds/guidelines Once this collab space is up I would love to get feedback from people here on it πŸ‘

tobie commented 1 month ago

CPC call: @rginn will reach out to see if any help needed moving this forward.

UlisesGascon commented 1 month ago

@rginn and I had a very productive meeting today defining the next steps. We plan to hold the meetings right after the Security collab sessions.

Who wants to join the new collab space? πŸ™Œ

voxpelli commented 1 month ago

@UlisesGascon Time allowing, I do

mhdawson commented 1 month ago

I'd join to start.

rxmarbles commented 1 month ago

Same I'd love to join, hopefully time wise it works out.

rginn commented 1 month ago

Cool! I added @ctcpip @rxmarbles and @mhdawson.

tobie commented 1 month ago

πŸ™‹

rginn commented 1 month ago

Gotcha @tobie! Added.