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Future COBOL Friday Topic Requests #82

Closed sccosel closed 2 years ago

sccosel commented 4 years ago

I’m interested in starting a list somewhere, which would allow community members to request topics of interest to be the subject of future COBOL Friday Webinars. And, through the use of some kind of polling mechanism, allow the entire community to vote for the topics (ranking them in order of preference or just allow one vote per week, etc.) that they are most interested in. Where would be the best place to do this? Looking for feedback from others regarding the interest in this subject. Please leave comments below.

Suggested as possible future topics:

1) Real world situations - Loading a spreadsheet full of input data into a mainframe, COBOL readable input file, i.e. properly converting raw input, which would include numbers, negative numbers and text, even introducing literals into the converted file. Note: I could present this session.

2) Practical uses of DFSORT and/or ICETOOL.

MrGmaw commented 4 years ago

Hi Sccosel, I think that this could be a good place to do it. By the way, I'd like to learn how to create and handle Db2 database and relations (tables) with COBOL, zowe cli/VSCode and other tools.

sccosel commented 4 years ago

@MrGmaw Thanks for your comments! Just a reminder, that these sessions are only 1 hour in length, and are not meant to be complete training courses. There are videos on the Internet, which already cover heavy duty topics. I think real world scenarios/tips and tricks are well suited to this method of delivery. Scott

binary-sequence commented 4 years ago

Hi @sccosel,

When I need to make a poll, I use https://doodle.com It also allows to close and reopen the poll.

So, for example the poll can be closed on Friday, stream the session, then edit the poll removing the topic already covered in the session (and add more topics) and reopen the poll again until next Friday.

sandeep-sparrow commented 4 years ago

required this topic for better learning

Real-world situations - Loading a spreadsheet full of input data into a mainframe, COBOL readable input file, i.e. properly converting raw input, which would include numbers, negative numbers, and text, even introducing literals into the converted file. Note: I could present this session.

Practical uses of DFSORT and/or ICETOOL.

Dlthomass commented 4 years ago

@sccosel which video you talked about? on the Youtube? How to present your new class to us?Via Zoom , Skype?

sccosel commented 4 years ago

@Dlthomass - Well, so far, IBM personnel seem to be leading this project and its direction. They use Webex for their presentations. I would assume, that if IBM truly wants this "Open Mainframe Project" to be open to the community, then they will invite speakers, some of which do not work directly for IBM, to make presentations. I have not yet filmed the presentation that I described. At this point, I would need to prepare it. The Moshix Channel on YouTube has a lot of how to videos, but they are more geared toward the freely available TK4- which runs a public domain version of MVS 3.8j circa 1985 (z/OS evolved from MVS), with a version of the Cobol compiler dating from the 1960's or early 1970's, and other features which are just too old to learn modern features of current z/OS. However, learning how to code JCL using that older system is still relevant. However, once again, some more modern features of JCL are not present, such as IF, ELSE and ENDIF condition checking. What say you, @paulnewt?

paulnewt commented 4 years ago

I agree ... I was just speaking to Sudharsana about turning control over to the community late last week. Sudharsana, Martin, and I will be discussing it today. Control also includes reviewer/committer priviledges.

Sudharsana-Srinivasan commented 4 years ago

Thank you @sccosel for starting this issue with request for topic suggestions..... I put out a request last week on the Slack Channel. Happy to hear some topic ideas and suggestions!

sccosel commented 4 years ago

Ideas for future Cobol Fridays, originally posted in the Slack Channel, 5/3/2020: Hey @paulnewt looking forward to talking directly with you and @Sudharsana-Srinivasan next week. I’d be most interested in presenting intermediate or advanced (combined) topics in a single session involving JCL, Cobol, DFSORT/ICETOOL, GDGs (concepts and usage) and/or uploading an Excel Spreadsheet of values (including negative numbers) into a dataset directly readable by a subsequent COBOL program. That’s enough for one session! Perhaps called JCL Tips and Tricks #1, Another session on sending a job to run on another MVS system, passing a file containing records longer than 80 bytes. This exercises XMIT and RECEIVE commands. Also retrieving and uploading software obtained from cbttape.org, using BATCHTSO, maybe even running quick and dirty BATCHSQL. Also could demonstrate Batch FTP to a remote FTP server (MVS or Windows)! Also, Windows FTP to MVS host including JES job submission. Let me know your thoughts!

MikeBauerCA commented 2 years ago

Closing as the COBOL Friday Series has concluded. We are considering launching COBOL quarterly webinars through our Technical Steering Committee where we will provide course updates and may include guest speakers to talk about technical topics related to the course.