Closed wellorder closed 1 year ago
What do you think about #804 for adding a provider_id
to reports?
In response to https://github.com/openmobilityfoundation/mobility-data-specification/pull/804#issuecomment-1343022965:
I'm fine putting the the date string, like 2022-11-01, but putting a time with offset is fundamentally misguided (there are months with more than one UTC offset). Another possibility would be to include the time zone as its own column, rather than the offset. (That was actually in the initial commit for [this] PR :) ) Then you have two columns with identical values in each report, and you're reporting to the city their own time zone (which, uh, they know), but I'm not against it. (One could consider it evidence that the provider has followed the spec with regard to counting in the local time zone I suppose.) I am against the UTC offset.
I think the reason for having a time zone is to be clear about it for jurisdictions that have more than one time zone. A rarity now perhaps, but that was the reasoning.
Having 2022-11-01 as a date field is fine, and leaving the time zone out is fine too.
An open question for me is about keeping the duration in there. I would keep it, as it's a small field data-wise and we could explicitly make it flexible, with just a recommendation of month as a default.
Jurisdictions with more than one time zone...sends a shiver down my spine to think about. I know they exist, but they're enough to make a data engineer exclusively use UTC :) I'll note that the existing spec does not address that at all, so I don't think that was the initial intent. (What's the offset in place for the majority of the month in a market where two offsets were in place the same amount of time?)
Just to be sure I understand the current proposal:
date
column with format YYYY-MM-DD
duration
column with P1M
as its valuetime_zone
column
I'm fine with this, and I can update the PR if that sounds correct.
- a
date
column with formatYYYY-MM-DD
- a
duration
column withP1M
as its value- no
time_zone
column I'm fine with this, and I can update the PR if that sounds correct.
I think this looks like the way forward to me too. Thank you!
You may also have to resolve the conflicts with provider_id
from the previous PR merge, @wellorder.
Okay, this is updated. It's a pretty small change after all the discussion, but one that will save a lot of confusion I think. 😄
Explain pull request
The current handling of time in
/reports
is strange for two reasons:duration
column which is always justP1M
. This delivers no value. The thinking had been that we might make this dynamic; such an implementation would be vastly different and is no longer being considered.This PR handles a few of the action items from that discussion.
Is this a breaking change
This is a breaking change. The intent is for this to be included in MDS 2.0.
Impacted Spec
Which spec(s) will this pull request impact?
provider
Additional context
See the discussion from https://github.com/openmobilityfoundation/mobility-data-specification/wiki/Web-conference-notes,-2022.07.07-(MDS-Working-Group) and the discussion at https://github.com/openmobilityfoundation/mobility-data-specification/issues/672