Using CLI to instantiate APB services

[siamaksade]

OpenShift CLI doesn't seem to recognized services that are added to the the service catalog via the service broker. For example here is the output when looking for mysql:

# oc new-app -S mysql
Templates (oc new-app --template=<template>)
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mysql-persistent
  Project: openshift
  MySQL database service, with persistent storage. For more information about using this template, including OpenShift considerations, see https://github.com/sclorg/mysql-container/blob/master/5.7/root/usr/share/container-scripts/mysql/README.md.

NOTE: Scaling to more than one replica is not supported. You must have persistent volumes available in your cluster to use this template.
cakephp-mysql-persistent
  Project: openshift
  An example CakePHP application with a MySQL database. For more information about using this template, including OpenShift considerations, see https://github.com/openshift/cakephp-ex/blob/master/README.md.
dancer-mysql-persistent
  Project: openshift
  An example Dancer application with a MySQL database. For more information about using this template, including OpenShift considerations, see https://github.com/openshift/dancer-ex/blob/master/README.md.

Image streams (oc new-app --image-stream=<image-stream> [--code=<source>])
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mysql
  Project: openshift
  Tags:    5.6, 5.7, latest

Docker images (oc new-app --docker-image=<docker-image> [--code=<source>])
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mysql
  Registry: Docker Hub
  Tags:     latest

While there is also a MySQL APB in the service catalog:

How can one use oc new-app to instantiate APB services?

[jwforres]

@openshift/sig-developer-experience

[jwforres]

short answer is no, i'll let @bparees give a more detailed answer

[bparees]

Well the longer answer is "we could but i don't think we're going to". Making new-app search the service catalog offerings would overlap w/ whatever service catalog cli functionality is being created. (And then new-app would also have to implement the service catalog client apis to provision the things you found...again, this is better served by a first class cli for interacting with the service catalog).

That said your question seems to be two parts: 1) How can i use the cli to instantiate service catalog offerings. My understanding is we have a cli or one is coming, assigning to @pmorie to share more. 2) How can I use the oc new-app command to do this: You can't and we have no plans to make it possible.

[siamaksade]

How many CLIs are we going to have in order to interact with OpenShift? I can count 4 (oc, ocdev, svcat and apb) so far and I need to somehow know which CLI can do what I need to do. That is very complex for even an advanced user.

As a user, I want to deploy an item that is listed in OpenShift service catalog. To me, all items there are the same but you say I should know how each one is created (template, APB, etc) and based on that know which CLI (oc, svcat, etc) should be used to deploy that item?

@sspeiche @jorgemoralespou

[thesteve0]

This would be unacceptable from a Middleware perspective. By unacceptable I mean, there has been no justification given why this decision is better than a single command line as well as no discussion with other BUs about the impact and tradeoffs . Can we please revisit this decision as it is anti-developer. There should be 1 cli and 1 web console for a developer to interact with OpenShift.

[bparees]

I would not expect it to be a new cli binary, I would expect subcommands off the oc binary. (e.g. "oc service-catalog provision")

but i defer to @pmorie who owns the service catalog to actually tell us what is coming or exists.

[sspeiche]

The plan was/is to have subcommands, whether those subcommands are plugins powered by svcat...it could work.

I do agree the flows including new-app should be service-catalog/class aware

[jorgemoralespou]

@bparees, then moving new-app into the plugins (and maybe create a set of developer plugins and include ocdev), but that would open the question on how to distribute, update plugins so that the experience of using plugins is sick.

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